I agree with Ruben and Karel. OSM is a place for facts, not opinions. Wikidata linking would be great, though. Op 14-nov.-2015 18:29 schreef "Ruben Maes" <[email protected]>:
> 14/11/2015 18:07:06, André Pirard: > > On 2015-11-14 17:24, Ruben Maes wrote : > > > Hi > > > > > > I'm sorry, but just no. Though I am personally shocked just like > everyone else, I feel that OSM is IMO not the place for these kind of > messages. I would rather have your changeset reverted. > > My mind was not agreeing with my heart when clicking "send" because I > > feared this reply. > > > Furthermore, you have no right to speak on behalf of *all* OSM mappers. > > That is exactly why I posted this message, to know the general opinion > > about it. > > At this time, it's 1 no 2 yes. > > I'm waiting for more reactions and if there is not a strong majority of > > yeses, I will revert. > > So, please say yes if you feel like it, not just no. > > Of course my thoughts are with the victims, but adding it to the map is > not the way, just because it is not something that belongs in a GIS. > Besides, all that attention is exactly what those filthy terrorists want! > > > By all means, do not tell anybody else that the OSM community until a > > decision is made by Monday. > > > > And please everybody, say something else that just noes and tell us what > > you think about the Wikipedia link. That is, a link that is not the > > website of the element but to information related to it. > > We don't add tags to the Bristish Parliament for the Gunpowder Treason > page, or to some random grass field for the Waterloo Battle, or such > things. If a monument is erected for these attacks, you can map the > monument and add the monument's Wikipedia page and Wikidata item to the > monument's OSM object. The Wikidata item should link to both the item for > the events and all involved locations. > > Wikipedia and Wikidata tags should point to the item about the object > itself, and nothing else. > > > > There may even be terrorists here for all we know. > > > > > > If this were to appear in the press like you suggest, I would feel > ashamed and have the feeling that we are using the events for our own > cause, which too many people are already doing. > > I don't feel like that at all. There is no boasting. > > Would you suppress humanitarian tagging about which there is much > boasting? > > Humanitarian tagging is actually helping the victims. We can tell the > world that we are doing this because some people will say, "Hey, I can > actually help this way instead of changing my profile picture", and that > will make the next crisis response even better. > > > Cheers > > > > André. > > > > > > > Regards > > > Ruben > > > > > > > > > Saturday 14 November 2015 17:14:57, André Pirard: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> OpenstreetMap often extends friendliness by humanitarian tagging. > > >> In this case of desolation, there is little to tag. Little... > > >> Wikipedia have been extremely fast > > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks> in all > > >> languages !!! > > >> After some mourning period, the note below may be replaced by this > (but > > >> how?): > > >> Attentats du 13 novembre 2015 en Île-de-France > > >> < > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentats_du_13_novembre_2015_en_%C3%8Ele-de-France > > > > >> > > >> I have just uploaded this change set (scroll down the left pane): > > >> Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that > > >> happened here on 2015-11-13. > > >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35307155> > > >> It adds the following note < > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:note> > > >> to the OSM elements at the 6 attacked locations. > > >> (they were perfectly mapped, bravo) > > >>> Nos plus sincères condoléances à propos des monstrueuses attaques > > >>> terroristes qui ont eu lieu ici le 2015-11-13. Vous avez l'amitié de > > >>> tous les contributeurs à OpenStreetMap de par le monde. > > >> In their language. Sorry no room for added English in <256 > characters. > > >> Translates to: > > >> Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that > > >> happened here on 2015-11-13. > > >> Receive the friendship of all the Openstreetmap contributors around > the > > >> world. > > >> > > >> Please forward this to other concerned OSM mailing lists. > > >> Please let me know any change you come to an agreement with. > > >> I will make any change easily using my *.osm file. > > >> > > >> By Monday, you may like to send the URL to the Press. > > >> It won't be bad advertising for OpenStreetMap to show the places and > to > > >> join the world's cry . > > >> But let us hope that vandalism will not be added to terrorism. > > >> > > >> Cheers > > >> > > >> André. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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