I have the area of Stonewall, MB prepared as a sample, as well as Selkirk, MB as i presume you might be familiar with that area too.
http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/osmcanvec_062i02_shpSelkirkMB.zip http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/extracanvec_062i02_shpSelkirkMB.zip http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/extracanvec_062i03_shpStonewallMB.zip http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/osmcanvec_062i03_shpStonewallMB.zip Hopefully you'll find some tags that needs to be corrected. Cheers, Sam Vekemans Across Canada Trails On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Sam Vekemans <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, my guess is that you were tracing the CanVec Roads from the .zip > file i sent you? > > If so, the reason it's still in Beta Phase, is that it needs to show > "source=" tags, so people who where you got the data from. Also, > keeping all the UUID tags is important. > > For the GeoBase2osm script, that's Steve Singer, and it's best to be > updating the chart as you go along. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature > and following the instructions listed. > > I havent yet started actually importing any of the data from these > sample files (canvec2osm or geobaseNHN2osm) because the source tags > all need to be right. I chose "attribution=Natural Resources Canada" > but not sure if it's going to stay like that. > > Also, by signing up as a new user (prefixed with "geobase:"), it make > it easier if the data needs to be removed. > > The geobaseNHN2osm (National Hydro Network) is still in beta phase, i > should have a sample are posted this week, so people can check the > source tags. > > And the canvec2osm script is also still in Beta, this is because the > tags still need to be perfected. (it doesn't make sence to start > importing when the tags are not yet correct)... it would mean ALOT of > manual re-tagging features. > > Cheers, > Sam > > P.S. (for everyone) would it be better if I not include conversion of > the CanVec Roads as part of my script (so then it's only the > geobase2osm python script that is handling roads?) ... will this > avoid the confusion??? > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jonathan Stewart > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Sam, >> >> Thought you might want to see some of the results of making that >> Geobase data available to me in a format JOSM can use. >> >> Here is a section of the city which i had partially mapped with GPS >> traces and my bike, but using the geobase data, i was able to fill it >> in much more: >> http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=49.924120297834754&lon=-97.0929286760268&zoom=15&layers=B0000F000F >> >> My friend lives in Stonewall, which is north of winnipeg, and we were >> wondering if we could get data for areas north of the city, which we >> could tag and verify, etc. Is this geobaseNRN2osm script public? Is it >> easy to use, could i generate some areas of my own with geobase data? >> >> Thanks, >> Jonathan >> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Jonathan Stewart >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Oh Wow. Sam, this is great. >>> >>> I am just exploring all the data you gave me, which is tons. I love >>> all the hydrological data. The amenities are pretty amazing, too. I >>> just found shapes, too! Like, shapes of buildings. Not the best >>> quality of data (even official sources are made by humans, right? ;) >>> but it's still pretty good. The buildings seem to be offset south by >>> about 5 or 10 metres, but they are certainly there, and accurate >>> overall. >>> >>> I overlaid the OSM data on the NRN road data that was also there. >>> Very very close match, thought OSM data is better in many cases. My >>> real GPS traces are more accurate than the official map, which seems >>> good to me. ;) >>> >>> I am still exploring, but overall, this is really great stuff. Allows >>> me to skip the conversion step, and go right to mapping using JOSM, >>> which is fairly easy, even for new users. >>> >>> How do you envision the data import? Manual tracing and labelling >>> using JOSM? I did just add a building to OSM based on the CanVec >>> data, by just tracing, which works well. Very manual, but then you >>> have the sanity check of a human operator adding the data, not an >>> automated script which can create corrupted data, like is an issue in >>> Alberta right now. >>> >>> That's my thoughts so far. Big thumbs up! >>> >>> Jonthan >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Sam Vekemans >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>>>> Oops, spoke too soon (i put a note on your wiki page) >>>>> Oh yes, you did. Read this email first. :) >>>> >>>> There is always a delay in getting the talk-ca digest :( >>>> >>>>>> How about Northern Winnipeg? >>>>> I don't quite follow. It seems what i want is to be able to import >>>>> the NHN data into OpenJUMP, so that i can run a compare. So i need a >>>>> way to convert OSM to the same format SHP as i get from NRN. Is that >>>>> not right? >>>>> >>>>> What would the data from geobaseNHN2osm give me? >>>> >>>> I should really name the file geobaseNHN-to-osm because it skips that >>>> step. In stead of converting the existing osm data to SHP, i convert >>>> the GeoBaseNHN shp files to osm format, so then they can be >>>> individually viewed in JOSM. .. 15 separate .osm files get created. >>>> One of which is the boundary polygon. >>>> >>>> What i want todo is make the script as simple as possable, so then >>>> anyone can run the script, as it requires attention to detail with >>>> manual scanning the area to see how it matches up. Ie. in some >>>> cases rivers were drawn in, but at a higher/lower detail.. so then the >>>> mapper who actually drew in that river would get to decide on what to >>>> include/exclude. >>>> >>>> Unlike the roads, there are many different features, and the level of >>>> mapping detail varies from mapper to mapper. >>>> >>>> Also (but this isn't an excuse) as i dont know how to convert the OSM >>>> data area to SHP format, and use the AutoMatch feature. I think that >>>> going this manual route with the easier option will take more time.. >>>> BUT will ensure that all the features get imported, and that there >>>> will be no duplicate nodes/lines/areas as a result. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> And as for what area of Winnipeg I am familiar with... I suppose the >>>>> central area, which is where I live. Which also has some of the best >>>>> maps, cause I made a lot of them over the summer on my bike, which was >>>>> pretty fun. Still snowing and terrible weather here, though. >>>>> >>>>>> For the CanVec2osm script, i'm still going through all the features, >>>>>> and trying to get them all matched up, and will also have a sample >>>>>> ready soon. Hopefully within the next 2 weeks, i should have a sample >>>>>> area for this one also, so people can see how it gets rendered, and >>>>>> spot errors in the tagging. So i can also create a sample area for >>>>>> Winnipeg also if you like. >>>>> Oh wow, CanVec data (which i just read about >>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec_OSM_Map_Features) seems >>>>> really cool. Lots of detail, if it's as good as what's advertised. >>>>> Go ahead and hit me with a sample. >>>>> >>>> >>>> the sample CanVec area is availble to download from here: >>>> http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/extracanvec_062h14_shpwinnipeg.zip >>>> http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/osmcanvec_062h14_shpwinnipeg.zip >>>> As well as the GeoBaseNHN is available from here. >>>> http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/extranhn_rhn_05mj000_shp_enwinnipeg.zip >>>> http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/osmNHNnhn_rhn_05mj000_shp_enwinnipeg.zip >>>> >>>> The polygon area shape file is in the 'extra' folder, and these 2 >>>> areas overlap over winnipeg. >>>> >>>> So you can see what there is available. >>>> >>>> i also have the NRN roads available in the Extra folder of the CanVec >>>> set, so you can get an idea of what roads are available. >>>> >>>>> And yes, I understand the desire to get the data working well before >>>>> we import it. At this point i was just at the experimentation stage, >>>>> to see if i could actually help with data importing and verification >>>>> and stuff. I have a couple of friends involved in this too. One is >>>>> just north of Winnipeg (stonewall) and another is in Burnaby. We are >>>>> all pretty keen on OSM, and are looking to see how we can help and >>>>> improve it. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Jonathan >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hopefully you'll be able to spot some errors and point them out. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Sam Vekemans >>>> Across Canada Trails >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jonathan >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan >> > _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
