Dear all
I am writing from Cuba were I live. I have noticed also incongruence
about road classification in Cuba, In part it can be attributed to the
poor manteinance situation in many roads. Nevertheless there is an
official classification of roads in Cuba (National, Provincial,
municipal level) that could be a guidance
For instance:
National level:
- Carretera Central (N-1): This is a 7 m wide road that cross all the
island from Baracoa in the East to Sandino in the West ~1000 km, Most
part built before 1930.
- Autopista Nacional (A-1): Built as a motorway in the 80's but not
completely finished, running from Havana to the East (Sancti Spiritus,
~300 km) It has 6 ways between Havana and Santa Clara. Between Santa
Clara and Sancti Spiritus only one side is working in most places. Most
of crossings are bridges, but in rural settings it has also level
crossings and certainly the access is not completely restricted. A small
fragment is built also between Santiago de Cuba and Palma Soriano (~40 km)
- Autopista a Pinar del Río (A-2); The same but running from Havana to
the west, starting from Guanajay only 4 ways, ~180 km. Most crossings
are bridges but a few are not finished yet.
- Vía Blanca: From Havana to Matanzas and from Matanzas to Varadero ~150
km and Cardenas, along the northern coast, built in the 50's (Varadero
-Matanzas in the 90's), 4 ways. In most parts it has no central barrier,
some crossings are bridges, most no.
- Carretera Panamericana, from Havana to Mariel in the west ~40 km,
similar to Via Blanca along the north coast but to the west
A few others nearby Havana are multitired roads ( Autopista a San
Antonio de los Baños and Autopista a Melena del Sur -with central
barrier, but several level crossings), which has a branch connecting to
the southern port of Batabanó, which provides a ferry connection to Isla
de la Juventud).
New roads built for accessing Touristic hubs could be regarded also as
primary (From Ciego de Avila-Morón to Cayo Coco; From Holguín to
Guardalavaca, from Santa Clara to Cayo Santa María). In addition the
Circuito Sur (7 m wide road) is regarded also as a National level road.
It starts in Colon, Matanzas, crosses the A-1 in Aguada de Pasajeros,
reaches Cienfuegos and continues along the south shore to Trinidad and
joints again with the Carretera Central in Sancti Spitritus.
Other National level roads are:
- The road joining Camaguey to Nuevitas (an industrial city and
important port in the northern coast)
- Holguín-Mayarí-Moa-Baracoa (along the north coast in the Western),
including the branch Cueto-Palma Soriano
- Tunas-Bayamo-Manzanillo
- Guanajay-Mariel
In general all provincial capitals are connected to national level
roads. Other important cities or ports, such as: Mariel, Varadero,
Cárdenas, Trinidad, Morón, Nuevitas, Manzanillo, Moa and Baracoa are
also in this network.
I would like to point out that the provincial boundaries should be
updated, adding the new provinces of Mayabeque and Artemisa (former La
Habana province)
Best wishes,
Alexis Labrada,
Cuba
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:39:09 +0200
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Hi Jens
It is true.. The road are in wrong classification.
It happen because some mapper draw road but dont know the real road
situation in cuba.
To correct all roads is a hard work.
I think that is you can correct, it will be meravillous.
Can you made a doc file with the your new classifications?
Hasta pronto
ricky
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Da: Jens Wilke [mailto:[email protected]]
Inviato: venerd? 6 aprile 2012 16.14
A: [email protected]
Oggetto: [Talk-cu] road classification in CU
Hi all,
i've been in Cuba for 3 weeks in March and i've recognized that
almost any other roads than residential roads are classified up to 3
levels to high.
Tiny dirt roads are tagged as secondary roads.
Most of the motorways are in fact primary roads, because the're not
free of crossings.
All of the primary tagged roads that i've seen on my way from
Santiago to Vinales are in fact tertiary roads. Just smaller parts
within the Cities fit the criteria of secondary roads and even fewer
might be primary (a few Kilometer in Holguin e.g.)
So, how to deal with this?
If i correct those roads, that i know about, there will probably
remain a lot of smaller roads classified higher than main roads.
Rgds, Jens
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 14:35:25 -0400
From: PB<[email protected]>
To: OpenStreetMap Cuba<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-cu] R: road classification in CU
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Can you made a doc file with the your new classifications?
A wiki page could be better for this.
Maybe add something like == roads == to this one [1]
[2][3] are ancient threads around this subjet. Apologize by the broken
links. I can make them available again if needed
bb
PB
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cuba
[2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-cu/2009-September/000020.html
[3] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-cu/2009-September/000022.html
Hasta pronto
ricky
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Da: Jens Wilke [mailto:[email protected]]
Inviato: venerd? 6 aprile 2012 16.14
A: [email protected]
Oggetto: [Talk-cu] road classification in CU
Hi all,
i've been in Cuba for 3 weeks in March and i've recognized that
almost any other roads than residential roads are classified up to 3
levels to high.
Tiny dirt roads are tagged as secondary roads.
Most of the motorways are in fact primary roads, because the're not
free of crossings.
All of the primary tagged roads that i've seen on my way from
Santiago to Vinales are in fact tertiary roads. Just smaller parts
within the Cities fit the criteria of secondary roads and even fewer
might be primary (a few Kilometer in Holguin e.g.)
So, how to deal with this?
If i correct those roads, that i know about, there will probably
remain a lot of smaller roads classified higher than main roads.
Rgds, Jens
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:08:42 +0200
From: "MZ"<[email protected]>
To: "'OpenStreetMap Cuba'"<[email protected]>
Subject: [Talk-cu] R: R: road classification in CU
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Hola PB
Si creo que una wiki que hablar? de esto seria estupendo para ayudar
todos los debujadores de esa mapa.
En real lo que sirve es una clasificacion corecta de las carreteras.
Muchas son conocidas y muchas no, tengo tambien un mapa del 2011 de
habanaautos pero veo q la clasificacion no es corecta. Carreteras q en
el mapa pongon de segunda, si tu al va a ver en realtad ( o lo miras
por google o bing) es un sentero..
Y conducir un carro all? sin saber que carretera es ... no es facil.
Muy bien
Hasta pronto
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: PB [mailto:[email protected]]
Inviato: sabato 7 aprile 2012 20.35
A: OpenStreetMap Cuba
Oggetto: Re: [Talk-cu] R: road classification in CU
Can you made a doc file with the your new classifications?
A wiki page could be better for this.
Maybe add something like == roads == to this one [1]
[2][3] are ancient threads around this subjet. Apologize by the broken
links. I can make them available again if needed
bb
PB
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cuba
[2]
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-cu/2009-September/000020.h
tml
[3]
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-cu/2009-September/000022.h
tml
Hasta pronto
ricky
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Jens Wilke [mailto:[email protected]]
Inviato: venerd? 6 aprile 2012 16.14
A: [email protected]
Oggetto: [Talk-cu] road classification in CU
Hi all,
i've been in Cuba for 3 weeks in March and i've recognized that almost
any other roads than residential roads are classified up to 3 levels
to high. Tiny dirt roads are tagged as secondary roads.
Most of the motorways are in fact primary roads, because the're not
free of crossings.
All of the primary tagged roads that i've seen on my way from
Santiago to Vinales are in fact tertiary roads. Just smaller parts
within the Cities fit the criteria of secondary roads and even fewer
might be primary (a few Kilometer in Holguin e.g.)
So, how to deal with this?
If i correct those roads, that i know about, there will probably
remain a lot of smaller roads classified higher than main roads.
Rgds, Jens
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