Apparently there is https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/ee/79
Just noting that is not really Estonian local forum, it is more like others (visitors?) mapping Estonia. But I don’t know any better alternative either. I could not possibly add any web based forum to my own comm flows, but maybe it works for others. I could maybe join some Slack-based channel but many Slack orgs where I am do get below my attention reach also - like #local-estonia in https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C07FUQRUR1U . And Slack (and similars) really works if there is real activity, as primary group channel. So OK for me to close the email list, as moderator I get several post attempts from no-members every week which are all spam, so I ignore all of them (even if maybe 1% is not actually spam). Where I need to click to archive the talk-ee ? Jaak (talk-ee owner) > On 4. Aug 2025, at 18:19, Joosep-Georg Järvemaa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > There is a (parallel) forum? > > Kontakt fghj753.osm@ää.eu <mailto:fghj753.osm@%C3%A4%C3%A4.eu> > (<fghj753.osm@ää.eu <mailto:fghj753.osm@%C3%A4%C3%A4.eu>>) kirjutas kuupäeval > L, 2. august 2025 kell 18:44: >> Hi, >> >> I think maintaining two parallel communication channels is unnecessary. >> Since the forum supports mailing-list mode (with caveats, see [1]), and most >> of the discussion is already happening there (13 threads in the past year on >> the forum versus 2 on the mailing list, counting generic announcements like >> the survey invite and the current topic) [2][3], it makes sense to >> consolidate. I personally don’t use mailing list mode, but I do receive >> email copies whenever a new post appears in the Estonian subforum, plus a >> weekly digest of the most popular global topics (typically tagging disputes). >> >> >> >> As for maintenance costs, exact euros-per-email number is not known, but >> over years maintaining mailing lists has become more gruesome due to >> evolving security requirements, spam-filtering behaviour from recipient >> providers and current large obstacle of migrating from Mailman 2 to Mailman >> 3 [4]. Based on [4], [5], [6] and [7], a reasonable estimate cost of >> maintaining average mailing list is in range of 350-700 GBP/yr, depending >> largely on how much time Firefishy dedicates to Mailman. >> >> >> >> BR, >> >> Fghj753 >> >> >> >> [1] - >> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/discourse-and-mailing-list-mode/6054 >> >> [2] - https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/ee/79 >> >> [3] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ee/ >> >> [4] - >> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/retire-unnecessary-mailing-lists/133512/9 >> >> [6] - >> https://osmfoundation.org/w/images/8/89/OpenStreetMap_Foundation_Draft_Budget_2025-Ver_8.pdf >> >> [7] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo >> >> >> >> PS. Sample message for announcing this discussion on Discourse is pasted >> below. Mailing lists drop formatting, so I don’t know how it’ll actually >> look when delivered. >> >> >> >> From: eisa01 via OpenStreetMap Community Forum >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2025 12:20 PM >> To: email >> Subject: [Communities/Eesti (Estonia)] Close Estonian mailing list? >> >> >> >> >> >> eisa01 <https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/eisa01> >> August 2 >> >> The talk-ee <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ee/> mailing >> list is seeing very limited usage >> >> Given there’s a cost of maintaining these, have you considered closing it? >> There’s been no posts to it in 2025 >> >> See Retire unnecessary mailing lists >> <https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/retire-unnecessary-mailing-lists/133512> >> for context >> >> Visit Topic >> <https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/close-estonian-mailing-list/133539/1> >> or reply to this email to respond. >> >> To unsubscribe from these emails, click here. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ee mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ee mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
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