There is an internal event on the 21st that starts at 4pm. So you would need to finish up then or run it on the 14th. An event takes 5 days for Tog to approve and you need a member to host you. I could possible do the 21st but you would need someone else to host if you wanted the 14th. Jeffrey Roe, www.tog.ie
On 11 September 2017 at 10:41, Dave Corley <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Rounding back on this again. Between the responses on the mail list, > Facebook and previous surveys, the general consensus is to go ahead with > this. > > Martin, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I wanted to stay quiet > and see what others thought first. To your point, yes, its possible to do > everything I stated outside of a formal body, but given we are an informal > grouping of similarly minded folks for over a decade and organisational > interest/involvement is decreasing rather than increasing, I think its > necessary to do this if we are to ever become "more". Your comment about > there being a functioning group is bang on the money too. Right now I feel > there is such a thing, and the infrastructure is more or less in place ( we > are starting in a much better position than our UK counterparts). > > That being said, after the original survey questions a year ago, the mail > list and facebook responses and some private feedback, I think, as usual, > the distance factor is the biggest hurdle. With that in mind I think its > best to change from a series of meetings on the subject, to a single one, > where several of us come together and blitz the main items: > > - Constitution > - Memorandum of association > - Articles of association > - Interim board > - etc etc > > What I looking to achieve is to get to a point where we are 90% of the way > there. Afterwards, everything achieved would be put up online for feedback, > comment and to close out any remaining items. > > I'm hoping a single session of 5-6 hours should be good enough for this, > say from 12-5/6 on a Saturday. I'm hoping that by limiting this to a single > day, to get a much larger group to participate. > > In order to keep things moving through the day, I'm going to try organise > some sponsorship of refreshments. > > Would the Tog folks on this list know if Tog is available on a Saturday in > Oct? Say the 14th or 21st. If not, I'll try sort something else. > > Once a date and location is set, I'll set up an invite page, just to be > able to track numbers attending in the event I get sponsorship for > refreshments. > > Dave > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Rory McCann <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree with Dave, it would be good to get a formal OSM body set up. >> >> Yes, for doing more mapping events, you don't need a formal body, but >> you do it you want to be an OSMF local chapter, and I suspect it would >> be easier to talk to government bodies (or big orgs) if you're from an >> official body. >> >> And who knows, setting it up might be kick up the arse for some of us! >> >> Since I'm in Germany, I can't come to any of the events. 😞😞😞 But I'll >> help how I can... I was involved with setting up TOG, which was >> originally an unincorporated association (don't do that!) and is now a >> DAC (designed activity company(?)) >> >> On 14/08/17 03:52, Dave Corley wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> First, I want to apologise, this is a long email, but if you are at all >>> interested in moving OSM in Ireland to the next level, please read on and >>> give your feedback when you're done. >>> >>> Efforts to get the OSM Ireland group set up as a legal entity and >>> established as a recognised chapter have never really got out of the >>> starting blocks for us, mainly because it's an exceptionally long, boring >>> process to get it all done. >>> >>> Back when Rory gave the Townlands presentation at a Sotm or two ago, I >>> contacted everyone who took part and asked a number of questions to allow >>> for some stats to be included in the presentation. I asked a few questions >>> specifically around the topic of setting something up properly. If I >>> recall >>> correctly, all but one were interested in joining an official OSM Ireland, >>> but less than half wanted to be involved in setting it up. But that ratio >>> is to be expected. If I'm honest, it was a lot higher than I originally >>> expected. >>> >>> What I would love to see is a functioning OSM Ireland body which, at an >>> absolute minimum, could do the following >>> >>> - Scheduling regular meet up's - These would have some organisation >>> around them e.g. guest speakers, break out groups, objectives etc. >>> This >>> could be monthly, bi-monthly or quarterly, doesn't matter, just even >>> setting up a schedule and sticking to it would be a great achievement >>> - Work on increasing the qty of daily contributors - Some simple >>> things >>> like automating messages to first time mappers, or a tool to ensure >>> every >>> new contributor's edits are reviewed for accuracy/vandalism etc. >>> Basically, >>> just setting up some structure around it to ensure we engage with new >>> folks >>> in the most efficient and effective ways possible. I see no reason >>> why a >>> number of 50 a day shouldn't be achievable within an 18 month period >>> if >>> this is done right. >>> - Setting up an Import strategy - There is an ever growing pool of >>> open >>> data being released. To make full use of it is going to require a >>> signficant body of up-front work (selecting, categorising, >>> prioritising, >>> tools and import process). >>> - Lining up other, structured, mapping tasks - For example doing a 1 >>> month blitz on lane mapping, or a 3 month clean-up of errors using >>> Osmi or >>> keepright etc etc etc. We did this with the enormous townland mapping >>> project. Smaller scale versions, with a little work, could have a >>> real, >>> lasting impact on the map >>> - Commiting to organising a State of the Map yearly. This doesn't need >>> to have a load of bells and whistles, hell, year one would likely be >>> one >>> day, but it has to be possible to get a 2 day conference going within >>> 2 >>> years, whatever format it may take (barcamp, unconference etc). >>> There's >>> enough going on now between mappers, govt, commercial and academic >>> folks >>> that is easily within reach. >>> - Lastly, getting out of Dublin. I know Dublin has the biggest >>> >>> population of mappers, but what about having the meetup in a location >>> outside of Dub once or twice a year. Or there could be a night away >>> where >>> we do a load of ground work on the basemap first, then hit the ground >>> in a >>> town and get every street name, address, business and attraction all >>> in one >>> day, then meet back somewhere, have a bite to eat and a few drinks. >>> >>> In my head, I'm seeing each of those things needing 2-3 people to work on >>> them, i.e. working groups, to ensure nobody gets left holding the bag and >>> to avoid burnout. >>> >>> Now, I'd like to say, all of the above is purely what *I* think OSM >>> Ireland >>> should be about. Others may feel differently, and that's totally fine. >>> It's >>> kind of the point of this email :) >>> >>> With all of that in mind, to get us formally set up, what I am proposing >>> is >>> the following >>> >>> 1. A meeting in early Sept (the 2nd or the 9th) where we will come >>> together to hammer out a lot of the basics of setting up OSM Ireland. >>> Note, >>> this will involve people coming together, agreeing on the structure and, >>> most importantly, some people agreeing to take some work e.g. research >>> whats involved in setting up a bank account, what are the legal >>> requirements, how will we manage membership, etc etc >>> >>> 2. A second meeting in early Oct where the majority of the structure is >>> locked down. Work to start on Articles of Association etc if required at >>> this point. Again, some people would need to agree to take on some tasks >>> to >>> keep the process moving. >>> >>> 3. A third meeting in Nov and a fourth in Dec, to lock down any last >>> elements. At this point we would need to agree a provisional board >>> probably, to allow for paperwork to proceed for banks, govt. etc. Note, >>> this board would step down at the first general meeting of OSM Ireland and >>> elections would be held at that first meeting. >>> >>> 4. Jan, get all the paperwork sent to whoever >>> >>> 5. TBD, once paperwork is approved by relevant bodies, agenda for first >>> general meeting to be determined and election process to begin >>> >>> There you go. With a bit of luck, before the next round of green >>> milkshakes >>> hits McDonalds, we would be a formal entity and we could start talking >>> about moving to the next stage, which would be completing the OSMF chapter >>> application, not to mention any other objectives we might have. >>> >>> So, who's in? >>> >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-ie mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
