On Sunday 06 Dec 2009 12:35:12 pm Harshad RJ wrote: > > On Sunday 06 Dec 2009 12:08:25 pm Harshad RJ wrote: > > > 1. What is [3] Division for? I don't remember anything in my history > > > books about Divisions! > > > > the erstwhile Mumbai Presidency has divisions - several districts > > together and > > sub-divisions - several taluks together. So you have: > > division - divisional commissioner > > district - deputy commissioner > > sub-division - assistant commissioner > > taluk - tahsildar > > this is followed in Karnataka for example. > > > > Madras Presidency area: > > District - collector > > block - RDO (two or more taluks) > > taluk - tahsildar > > this is followed in Tamilnadu > > If Division = collection of districts within a state, then its admin_level > ought to be somewhere between State and Division. In the current proposal, > it's one level higher than the State! > > You say "erstwhile" for Mumbai presidency. Is this presidency/division > concept still followed in India?
basically India is comprised of the three Presidencies - Bombay, Madras and Calcutta along with the princely states. I do not know about the Calcutta Presidency, but have practised law in both Karnataka, which follows the Bombay model and Tamilnadu, which follows the Madras Model. Karnataka is interesting because it comprises of 4 parts - Northwest is known as Mumbai Karnataka, as it was in the Bombay presidency, Bidar, Raichur and Gulbarga came from Hyderabad (Princely state) and are known as Hyderabad Karnataka and Dakshina Kannada, Kolar and bangalore cantonment came from Madras, whereas the rest of Karnataka is known as Old Mysore (as it came from the princely state of Mysore) - coorg also is an erstwhile princely state. Subsequent to States reorganisation on linguistic lines, the Presidencies ceased to exist. When I last practised in Karnataka, Divisions and sub-divisions where still there. I do not know whether they still exist. However Divisions and sub-divisions are revenue concepts, and do not warrant lines on a map. One is a collection of districts and the other a collection of taluks. Blocks in the erstwhile Madras presidency are still alive and well as a collection of taluks in a particular district - but they are also not really relevant to a map. > Do we want it in OSM? Also, is this > convention standard all over India? I have already answered this > > Aside, I did some digging on the internet. Both wikipedia and the CIA fact > book pages for India describe states and union territories as > "administrative divisions of India". It's used as a generalized term for > all countries. The next level is districts, followed by taluks/tehsils. that is right - only some states have additional things like divisions, sub- divisions and blocks also under the new Panchayat Raj, one has Panchayats and Panchayat unions also. And also town panchayats, village panchayats, selection grade municipalities, municipalities, corporations etc etc. Most of these divisions are specific to states - although the presidency legacy lingers. And of course UTs like Puducherry and Chandigarh have totally different concepts. Goa for example has provinces and something else, forget the name. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ _______________________________________________ Talk-in mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
