This is a good thread! And I admit, I am guilty in some of the blunders
(i.e. Barangay names) or should I say "non-standard"? As you all know,
there is no wrong tagging in OSM.
Perhaps we can start a wikipage for Pinoy tagging practices?
cheers,
maning
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 11:12 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > There's no discussion yet regarding barangays. I prefer leaving out
> > the "Barangay" part of the name (unless it's numeric like "Barangay
> > 30").
>
> I was just about to send a second mail about that, as I realized that at
> certain zoom levels you can hardly see the map anymore because of all the
> Brgy. names, or hardly see certain Brgy names because of the other Brgy names
> ;).
> I guess the Brgy concept is a special Pinoy one. This is why the renderes are
> not designed for such a high density of area names (especially with regard to
> font sizes) . To ease this problem I highly endorse Seav's suggestion to
> omit redundant words "Barangay", "Brgy."(anyway for being an abbreviation),
> "Village", "Subdivision"etc...; unless it is really part of the name as in
> "Barangay 30".
> We should even make this a general national convention for OSM
>
> > As for the tagging, "place=village" and "place=suburb" doesn't
> > seem right. I think we should put a moratorium first on tagging the
> > barangays center nodes. But cities should have "place=city" and
> > municipalities should have "place=town". I think this is already done
> > (except for the newly-created cities/towns).
>
> Ok, I stop tagging Brgys for now. But we should find a solution for this.
>
> Guys, what do you suggest? Ask for an additional tag?
> I think we may go either with "suburb" or with "village".
> In any case, we should make it uniform.
> We should also figure out how to deal with areas that are well known under
> akin of "would-be Barangay name",
> like for example Salcedo Village in the Makati CBD. As far as I know there is
> no such thing as Brgy Salcedo. Salcedo is part of Bel Air or Urdaneta.
> However if you say "Bel Air" or "Urdaneta", nobody will think of the CBD.
>
> > See Urdaneta Village and Barangay Urdaneta for example. (http://
> > openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.55603&lon=121.02917&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF)
> > Urdaneta Village has "landuse=residential" and "name=Urdaneta Village"
> > tags but there's are boundary ways following the center line of Ayala
> > Ave., Makati Ave., Buendia, and EDSA which delineate Barangay
> > Urdaneta. The barangay includes The Peninsula Manila, and Roxas
> > Triangle, which are outside the Village.
>
> Ah, you do in fact seperate this. OK, very good. (but more work)
> Btw.: Do you have a source to get precise boundaries of Brgys. I have a hard
> time figuring them out.
> I think I better leave it to you to tag Brgy borders, and just do the landuse
> :)
>
> > I personally use the convention to leave out "Street" (except
> > numerical ones like "3rd Street"). My opinion is that "Street" is the
> > most common and becomes the default. All other names ("Road", "
> > Highway", "Boulevard", "Avenue", etc.) have those qualifiers. But in
> > any case, DO NOT abbreviate.
>
> All right. Will follow this. (phew, i though i have to rename everything
> again ;))
>
> Cheers
> Zoren
>
>
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