There are other "problems" with Andy's transport rendering that he would probably put a greater priority on fixing(which doesn't mean he will do them any time soon)
I ended up making my own bus map (in Maperitive) Richard On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > You see Gilles? It's not about to happen anytime soon. (It's not the first > time I receive this answer). It would also help if somebody updated the > wiki page where the 'new' scheme is explained, to reflect this opinion. > > Could somebody fix the validator in JOSM? A node with highway=bus_stop > should not cause a warning when assigned a platform role in a route > relation. I also fail to see why stop and platform roles are needed in > stop_area relations. It's obvious which is which. > > > Jo > > > 2013/12/9 Richard Mann <[email protected]> > >> highway=bus_stop & railway=tram_stop are well-established and do the >> basic job perfectly well >> >> some people decided they wanted a different system >> >> the value to the renderers of processing the new system is unclear at >> best; so they aren't likely to >> >> just add the established tags and be done with it >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Eventually has already taken 2 years and might take another 5. I tag all >>> my bus stops with highway=bus_stop, I'll replace it on all 40000 of them >>> with public_transport=platform/bus=yes at some point in the distant future. >>> I've been asking to render it for ages now and I gave up hope. >>> I also don't see why I would be double tagging though. >>> >>> The problem is, of course, that in my route relations I do use the role >>> platform, and JOSM's validator doesn't like that. So be it. It's annoying >>> when this pops up in other people's sessions though and they start asking >>> questions about it. >>> >>> The icon you see in JOSM, is just an icon. The internal rendering rules >>> give precedence to railway=tram_stop or public_transport=platform/tram=yes. >>> That's not a problem. >>> >>> No reason for separating them. >>> >>> I do separate stops over different nodes when they belong to different >>> operators though, because sometimes the zones differ, or the refs, or the >>> names. I then combine them into a stop_area relation, together with a node >>> public_transport=stop_position/bus=yes (as a node of the highway). I don't >>> always create these and I never add them to the route relations. >>> >>> The route relations are a pain to maintain, no need to make it even more >>> complicated. >>> >>> Polyglot >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/12/9 Mike N <[email protected]> >>> >>>> On 12/9/2013 6:52 AM, Gilles Baumgartner wrote: >>>> >>>> Is it ok to *add* the legacy tag >>>>> highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=bus_stop >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop> >>>>> >>>>> to be at the same time compliant with the new tags but still make the >>>>> renderer show the bus stop? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I would recommend adding the legacy tag. This is because the public >>>> transport tagging scheme is in a long transition period. Eventually the >>>> map rendering rules will be modified to include the new scheme. >>>> >>>> *2. Combined stops, e.g. tram and bus* >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not familiar with this problem; hopefully someone else will have a >>>> recommendation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-transit mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-transit mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-transit mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-transit mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit > >
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