Isn't this all a little bit like mapping for the renderer? (Mapping for the router?) If paths don't exist, should they really be created?
If people feel that they should be created, maybe there is a need for a new tag for 'highway connectors', kind of like the flow connectors used in the NHD stream data. They would exist in the database and show up in the editors, but would not be drawn by style sheets used by people who only want to render real roads/paths/etc. Routers could be trained to use these ways in combination with real tracks. This seems more like a router issue, not a data issue. Routing across areas may just require a router that can handle areas. I remember an example of this in an online app, but can't find the link anymore. David. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Jim McAndrew <j...@loc8.us> wrote: > I think this would be a great addition for routing. > I would make sure that you add tags like bicycle=no, even though bicycles > are probably not forbidden, bicycles and sand generally do not mix. ( > http://www.njbikemap.com/ omits dirt roads in southern jersey for this > reason) > Another consideration is that outside of Atlantic City and Wildwood, most > beaches require a beach tags/badges to use the beach. I'm not sure what the > best way to tag these areas would be, but it would be important for routing > people who are not familiar with the area. > > -- > Jim > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Steven Johnson <sejohns...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> A few years ago, I mapped beach access paths, too: http://ow.ly/yZT3G >> But I did not map along the beach as there was no clearly defined path or >> boardwalk, nor could I see a compelling case for doing so. I can see a >> reason if driving, horses, bikes compete for access, or there are areas >> that permit/restrict access to the beach. >> >> -- SEJ >> -- twitter: @geomantic >> -- skype: sejohnson8 >> >> There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate >> from incomplete data. >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Bryan Housel <br...@7thposition.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I say go ahead and add it, though `highway=track` (with appropriate >>> access tag) might make more sense if vehicles drive along the beach. >>> >>> Here in NJ, people have also been mapping the paths that lead down to >>> the beach from the boardwalks, but they generally aren’t connected. I’m a >>> runner, so I would find it useful to know which stretches of beach are >>> passable and what the surface is like. >>> >>> Thanks, Bryan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Elliott Plack <elliott.pl...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> OSM US: >>> >>> I've been using some routing engines to map fitness routes (e.g. Strava) >>> that use OSM data. Along our US coasts, there are beaches. The beaches I'm >>> familiar with are popular with walkers and joggers to go up and down the >>> shore, since access is generally open to anyone along the water's edge. I'm >>> considering adding a `highway=path` along the beach to facilitate this. I'd >>> add the connections to the walking paths between parking lots and the beach >>> as well. >>> >>> For uninterrupted strips of sandy beach, would a path be appropriate to >>> indicate walkability? >>> >>> How the map looks now in iD: http://i.imgur.com/2EQ06BR.jpg >>> What I'd propose to do (note the connections): >>> http://i.imgur.com/i8dj6lQ.jpg >>> Area of the examples: >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/38.45143/-75.04957 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> Elliott Plack >>> http://about.me/elliottp >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-us mailing list >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-us mailing list >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >
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