On 8/31/2007, 11:42:22 AM EDT, Byron sputtered:

> what setting do you use when   you record?

With external mics, usually mid-attenuation with the preamp jacked up a
few DB, maybe from it's default 101 to about 109 on each side. I
normally don't use the internals much, unless I need to "start
recording right now!" and have no time to monitor or setup externals. I
pretty much leave the internal attenuator on mid. Low wouldn't be a bad
idea if you're in a moving box with lots of SPL, though.
Given that, they are still the nicest internals I've seen on anything
thus far. Definitely a huge improvement over the Edirol R1's internal mics, 
even though they are closer together. It's all about the cardioid
pick-up pattern!

Given the above settings for external mics, if something really
scary/loud occurs, I can always drop
to low attenuation (which is kind of a misnomer given that the lower
settings are more attenuated, of course), and still have a pretty good 
signal-to-noise ratio
before it starts hitting quantization territory.
This is actually a problem with the H4 since the preamp is so clean. You
can easily hit levels in quiet situations, while recording in 16-bit, where 
bits will start getting truncated.

So, of course, the best option is to record with some headroom and a
good SNR, then squeeze what you can out of it in post-production. Borris
likes Sound Forge's wave hammer for this.
Keep your recordings as close to nominal without clipping on the input stage, 
then have some post-production fun.

P.S. the Sound Professionals phantom to plugin power converter is crap.
It technically does what it's supposed to, supplying the right amount of
plugin power to the mics when driven with 24 or 48-volts, but the
impedance is all wrong for most, if not all plugin-powered mics. This is 
probably
not completely the boxes fault.
So, when using external mics, in my case, the awesome Wizzzoelliam
modified WM61 panasonics, I use them in conjunction with a Giant Squid battery
box with a locking power switch, and a 1/8 to 2 1/4 converter that fits
rather seamlessly onto the bottom of the Zoom. I really should just cut the 
nuetrik off of the
battery box, and put some equivalent 1/4 outputs on it, but this is easier for 
now.

I'll bet an Audio Technica AT-822 would be a good single-point match
for that recorder, if you want to use that style of mic. I don't have
one to test, though, and for what little I practically do with my setup,
given that I usually can't justify what I already have, spending another
$249 on something I won't use all that much is... well... yeah.
But, having said that, I'll probably do it anyway at some point, since I
usually do anyway.

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