-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hugh wrote: > What's the processor?
I'll have to check. It's possible the two P200s have different CPUs, since there are other differences. And I may be remembering the speed of the dead 64-bit laptop, not the 32-bit laptop. > | But now that some packages are no longer | available in 32-bit > architecture (hello, Chrome!) it may be necessary | to buy a new > laptop. > > Switch to Firefox? What other programs are missing? I'm already using IceCat, so the browser isn't my problem. But the lack of 32-bit Chrome is the thin edge of the wedge. There will be other packages that will no longer be distributed for 32-bit architecture. Then what? But I guess we're not using 8-bit and 16-bit CPUs any more either. > If you've got the notebook, why not use it until it dies Yup. That's how I treat all my computers. And then take the useful parts and frankenstein them into other computers. - --Bob. On 2018-02-10 09:46 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Bob Jonkman via talk <talk@gtalug.org> > > | I have a Toshiba Satellite P200 laptop, 3 GHz dual-core CPU, 2 > GBytes | RAM, 200 GByte HD, 4 USB ports, and, most wonderful of > all, a 1440x900 | px 17" screen. > > What's the processor? I read a review of a P200 that had a Core > Duo T2350 processor running at 1.867GHz. The fastest Core Duo T > series runs at 2.33GHz. > > | But now that some packages are no longer | available in 32-bit > architecture (hello, Chrome!) it may be necessary | to buy a new > laptop. > > Switch to Firefox? What other programs are missing? > > | Are there any down sides to using a 32-bit machine as a web- or > mail | server? I'm thinking low power consumption, &c. make that > an | attractive alternate use. > > Power consumption isn't that low on your notebook. There have > been some efficiency advances since 2006 when the Core Duo T series > were introduced. > > I'm typing this on a three year old netbook with a processor that > is roughly as powerful (but with modern features) and takes a lot > less power (7.5W vs 31W + GPU power). > > But that's a minor point. If you've got the notebook, why not use > it until it dies or something better comes along? ===== > Hugh wrote:>> I would think that most 32-bit only laptops are not > really useful >> any longer. > > I have a Toshiba Satellite P200 laptop, 3 GHz dual-core CPU, 2 > GBytes RAM, 200 GByte HD, 4 USB ports, and, most wonderful of all, > a 1440x900 px 17" screen. > > I was disappointed to learn about a week ago when installing > Debian Testing that it only has a 32-bit CPU. I have another P200 > that no longer boots, and I was sure it had a 64-bit CPU. That one > also had Bluetooth and 6 USB ports, so it was likely a higher > sub-model of the P200. > > Such a machine is perfectly adequate for web surfing, e-mail > reading, maintaining other people's websites, and ssh-ing into > whatever remote machine I'm SysAdminning. But now that some > packages are no longer available in 32-bit architecture (hello, > Chrome!) it may be necessary to buy a new laptop. > > Are there any down sides to using a 32-bit machine as a web- or > mail server? I'm thinking low power consumption, &c. make that an > attractive alternate use. > > > Howard wrote: >> Has anyone else out there played with this? (Netinstall) > > Yes, very successfully. I generally prefer doing the netinstall. > Using an .iso to install takes time to copy all the OS files and > packages to the computer, and, unless the .iso is a very recent > release, almost everything you just installed has to be replaced > with the first upgrade you make. So, might as well do the > netinstall and get all the current stuff the first time. > > > --Bob. > > > On 2018-02-10 10:49 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: > Howard Gibson via talk <talk@gtalug.org> >> >> | I have just upgraded my 32-bit laptop to Fedora 27. The >> install DVD | is no longer available for 32-bit. I had to do >> a Netinstall. >> >> Interesting. What laptop is it? I would think that most 32-bit >> only laptops are not really useful any longer. > >> On 2018-02-09 10:27 PM, Howard Gibson via talk wrote: >>> I have just upgraded my 32-bit laptop to Fedora 27. The >>> install DVD is no longer available for 32-bit. I had to do a >>> Netinstall. Netinstall is poorly documented, but the default >>> settings all work, I was able to select the software I wanted, >>> and it has all worked very well. I think I actually prefer >>> Netinstall to the DVD. >>> >>> Has anyone else out there played with this? >>> >>> I have not yet updated my website notes. - -- Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlp/z6UACgkQuRKJsNLM5eqrOwCfZAqbwk7IO0x0Q/r/gO4H1ICg avwAn02A/8cdwXPP8N/0XxMEtvCJsB9a =BGMN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
