Hi: I did not know about checking drivers and all that jazz. I always just purchassed a computer, plugged it and it ran. I did have to buy 2 or 3 keyboards to get my new Dell to work with WindowEyes - no num lock on one and no applications key on the other but then I learned of the shift-f10 key, got one with a num lock key and was a happy camper but never had any idea of driver incompatibilities with WindowEyes. Perhaps WindowEyes should produce a annual list of keyboards that work with their product if this is the case. I don't know from drivers so wouldn't even know how to figure out which drivers would work with WindowEyes and which ones wouldn't work and wouldn't know what to ask some usually ill informed desk clerk at some major manufacture to find out if their drivers would work with WindowEyes and they wouldn't have a clue anyway. When I buy a product like WindowEyes I have to assume they handle the interface to hardware on which their product is most likely to be used. And, if there are any gotch-yas WindowEyes should have a list of alternatives for their clients - not hope their clients know enough about hardware and drivers to pick some particular combination from the general descriptions provided on most hardware vendors sites. In fact, buying from a large manufacturer and trying to find out if their keyboards include certain keys is tough enough but asking some desk clerk if a driver will work with some really obscure piece of software like WindowEyes and they wont have a clue and neither will their tech staff - I have delt with them often enough to know this is the case 99 percent of the time for questions of that type. Exactly how do you determine which dell drivers or other major vendor drivers will work properly with WindowEyes, is there a list someplace? This also applies to the audio drivers and now, I guess, the keyboard drivers so how do you do it? I want to plug in my computer, install the product and have it work and that is what any product needs to do or the product is doomed to go extinct. Rick USA
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:21 AM To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers... Hi, When buying a keyboard this is something you have had to check for years. Does it use a function key. That changes the function of the function keys to media commands or to launch other programs. The location of the arrow keys no there is no standard for this. Does the keyboard use intellasense drivers that can perform things like auto correction and short cuts. These can quite often cause issues for screen reader. Of course the subject at hand does it have a numlock aplacations key etc. this is nothing new we have had to check these things for years. Not sure why all the fuss now because nothing has really changed here. Hth -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:38 AM To: Dave; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers... That's very true. It makes another thing that we have to add to the list of what we check when we buy a computer: whether the keyboard has the right keys, all of them! Also, where they are on the keyboard! Ugh! Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:31 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers... Seems like everything is getting smaller, shorter, Thinner, and often missing something, that once was part of the item. In this case, someone has decided to lower the cost of manufacturing, by removing a Key or two, or three. This time it is the Num Lock key, and it is probably true, that few ever use it. Just proving, you can't really assume much of anything these days. After a while, a person just gets tired of always having to double and triple check everything. At 06:12 PM 4/23/2015, you wrote: > demand that dell send you a keyboard that has a num >lock first before you go out and buy another keyboard. >give it a try. >don't lay down to the demands of dell stupitity. > >-----Original Message----- From: Carol and Roger via Talk >Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:13 PM >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >Subject: speaking of Dell computers... > >My brother got a new computer with a keyboard that has a number pad. >At the place where the numlock key should be, his keyboard has a delete >key and he only has numeric function of the keypad, Does anyone on this >list have any ideas as to whether there is a numlock key somewhere? >Will his only option for using mouse keys be to use the laptop layout? >Thank you. 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