OOPS: Rod, alt-shift-f indeed. Anyway, it happened several times. I did note that at the top of the yahoo finance page are some interactive controls like a help button and search box and others along with a flash, actually perhaps 3 or more, trying to load and run which also must be thron into the mix. If I get a lockup where I just hear bing bing with the arrow keys and things wont respond at all, not tab or anything related to page navigation it almost seems like I am locked inside a Edit Field of some type and turnigng browse on or off made no diference for that one. Closing the page and re opening it in the browser I was still in that non responsive edit field, if it was that, until I used another screen reader, navigated away from the top of the page and fired up windoweyes again. After that navigation returned to normal and I turned off the other reader. So there is more going on and, in this case, it seemed to be related to the locking inside a edit field in WindowEyes dialog of some type or on the page itself. Also, that weird selection dialog had come up and I think that was a WindowEyes dialog where you can choose what you want to appear in a list of sorted items but I never hit any hot keys that I know of that might have opened it and no matter what, I couldn't close that dialog. I forget if I just closed the browser or had to ReBoot to make it go away but, again WindowEyes is in the mix when things go wrong on these pages no doubt. Rick USAn
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:34 AM To: 'Baracco, Andrew W'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Loy' Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues Hi: It happens with IE and with Firefox. Just now I was on the Yahoo Finance site in Firefox. I tried the ctl-alt-f to perform a search and the page locked up. It came back about a minute later and I tabbed down the page and hit the down arrow keys a few times to move away from wherever I was on the page. I tried the search again and it locked up again. When it came back I was in some, think WindowEyes, window with a list of think radio buttons where I could select if I wanted to sort on things like bookmarks, links and other things. I could not close this window to get back to the page. Alt tabbing around did no good the selection window kept coming up and I couldn't get out of it even by hitting ctl-f4 or alt-f4 etc... Now, I tried hitting ctl-alt t but WE just said "t" none of the keys like ctl-alt -w etc were working. It appeared WE was not respecting the hot key combinations. This action makes me think the script that handles such things was not getting the information but still windoweyes was able to speak so it was getting at least the keyboard letter keys. I tried the insert-alt-w hot key but only heard "w" again not getting the WindowEyes hot keys to fire further reenforcing my thought that this was a WindowEyes problem and likely with a script. The initial lockup was like so many others, no speech, no keyboard inputs including trying to fire up narrator but, at least, it did come back after about 60 seconds again indicating WindowEyes was waiting for something and after that all the loss of the hot keys and that weird selection page which I never got before but thought worth mentioning in case one of the WindowEyes guys has any idea if these things may be related. Note there is some unusual controls on the yahoo site like an envelope link and a search box near the top which may, or not, be dynamic since I never use these things and try to just tab past them to avoid the flash error message from locking things up - if you get the flash error you can usually just tab past it so long as you do it quickly but not too quickly. In the end I just Rebooted the computer and the world is talking to me again. Rick USA -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Talk Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:28 PM To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues For me, the problem is associated with IE 11. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:46 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues I have some sighted friends who tell me that they have problems with IE 11 stopping working. So it may not all be just the screen reader. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Higgins via Talk" <[email protected]> To: "Whizza" <[email protected]>; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <[email protected]>; "Mike" <[email protected]>; "Karyn Campbell" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:36 PM Subject: Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues > It is just hard for me to believe that 8gb doesn't Supply enough > memory for any screen reader to maintain stability. > > It seems that the only program that really gives me headaches is IE 11. > Thunderbird also has some issues, but I think that might relate to the > IMAP server rather than Window-eyes. Would anyone like to comment on that. > I mean, I might be all wet in my assumption. > > On 6/28/2015 10:25 AM, Whizza via Talk wrote: >> Hi, >> I've got 8 gb of ram in my desktop and still get quite a few speech >> lock-ups and Window-Eyes crashes, so obviously, it's not only the ram. >> >> Cheers, >> Sandra. >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larry.b.hi ggins%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845% 40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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