Hi Again Steve - responding to prior posting as I go through my e-mails. When a bounce back is generated it will only send one per day no matter how many messages are sent out by a particular account and then that may increment the Mailman bounce counter by .5 or .1. If you post allot to the list you are more likely to trigger the limit, post less and you wont trigger the limit. I have no spam filters on my provider, Brighthouse, and I get all talk list messages never marked as spam yet was disabled due to too many bounce backs. There are never any spam items in my online, internet, account folder on Road Runner / Brighthouse so I know they are not marking talk messages they pass through as spam, I hit the Outlook delete allot but it gives me a view into what is going on so I leavve it setup that way. The problem may indeed be something else but then what? Many other lists I am on never have this problem and only the WindowEyes lists are having this problem so something is diferent with the plumbing between their list providers and your list provider. As an old pro I would think you would throw a red flag in the direction of your list provider me thinks unless something else could be identified as singling your lists out as spam . When millions of other lists don’t have a problem and only one has a problem with the way Yahoo, Comcast, Road Runner, Brighthouse and others are working some standard operations and want to work within their guidelines you have to ask as we did with Big Bird, which of these things are not like the others. I don’t know but as an old Analyst, it sure would be the first direction I would look in for an answer. I will assume you have already checked the black lists out there to ensure you are not on them. That just leaves some technical issue and since I don’t see the huge multi-nationals black listing you because why? You are a tiny list about accessibility? Your list provider and your messages should be handled just like all other lists from other mail list providers but for some reason this is not the case. I still don’t understand fully how settings at say my end where I have no spam filters set could be causing bouncebacks when my e-mail provider is not even labeling them as spam in the first place. It is more likely there is a problem with your list provider and the big network guys and in particular with some settings on your provider. I could indeed be wrong but I have heard no other detailed explanation of what is going on that makes sense given the analysis of the available facts and data info. Hammer me on the head if I am missing something - no problem, lets just get it fixed - that is always my goal as a Programmer or Analyst and knowing you and others there this likely is the same bottom line. Rick USA
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone. It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not the case, this would be happening to more of us. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of joseph hudson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:44 PM To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hello Rick, as I've joined this list to help others in just read tit bits and pieces of information as I help people out with technology on a daily basis. We were having the same issue a couple weeks ago on the another list that I help them run. It is part of the providers issues. So it's not anything that Square can do so daunting that they can do, is talk to the provider that's hosting their website. And it's up to them to take these email addresses off the block list I hope this better answers your questions, and everybody else’s. Joseph Hudson Email [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404> Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary > from some work I have done. > Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if you get reinstated. > You might try contacting AI Squared and asking why this keeps happening over > and over and don't let them tell you it is your fault or someone elses > fault. > As faras I have determined it is their fault until I hear diferently from > someone on list or from AI Squared. > Its simple, they fix the problem or not - that's their choice, using > WindowEyes, that's our choice. > There are more solid screen readers out there, all be it much more expensive > than a relatively free WindowEyes, and if WindowEyes cant even manage a > e-mail list that is pretty bad indeed from a technical Competency Viewpoint. > Rick USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Vince Morvillo via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:50 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: got cut off again for bounces. 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