Cindy, It is messages that are being sent to you that are bouncing, not message you send. They have said they are working on this, so I won't go on and on about this, though.
Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of slery via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:51 PM To: 'Rick Thomas' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. And here is the best part, until an earlier reply today, I haven't post to the list in about two months so how on earth can my email be bouncing when I only read the list?! Cindy > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:talk- > [email protected]] On > Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 6:29 AM > To: 'Steve Jacobson' <[email protected]>; 'Window- > Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up > again. > > Hi Again Steve - responding to prior posting as I go through my > e-mails. > When a bounce back is generated it will only send one per day > no matter how many messages are sent out by a particular > account and then that may increment the Mailman bounce > counter by .5 or .1. > If you post allot to the list you are more likely to trigger the > limit, post less and you wont trigger the limit. > I have no spam filters on my provider, Brighthouse, and I get > all talk list messages never marked as spam yet was disabled > due to too many bounce backs. > There are never any spam items in my online, internet, > account folder on Road Runner / Brighthouse so I know they > are not marking talk messages they pass through as spam, I hit > the Outlook delete allot but it gives me a view into what is > going on so I leavve it setup that way. > The problem may indeed be something else but then what? > Many other lists I am on never have this problem and only the > WindowEyes lists are having this problem so something is > diferent with the plumbing between their list providers and > your list provider. > As an old pro I would think you would throw a red flag in the > direction of your list provider me thinks unless something else > could be identified as singling your lists out as spam . > When millions of other lists don’t have a problem and only > one has a problem with the way Yahoo, Comcast, Road > Runner, Brighthouse and others are working some standard > operations and want to work within their guidelines you have > to ask as we did with Big Bird, which of these things are not > like the others. > I don’t know but as an old Analyst, it sure would be the first > direction I would look in for an answer. > I will assume you have already checked the black lists out > there to ensure you are not on them. > That just leaves some technical issue and since I don’t see the > huge multi-nationals black listing you because why? You are a > tiny list about accessibility? > Your list provider and your messages should be handled just > like all other lists from other mail list providers but for some > reason this is not the case. > I still don’t understand fully how settings at say my end where > I have no spam filters set could be causing bouncebacks when > my e-mail provider is not even labeling them as spam in the > first place. > It is more likely there is a problem with your list provider and > the big network guys and in particular with some settings on > your provider. > I could indeed be wrong but I have heard no other detailed > explanation of what is going on that makes sense given the > analysis of the available facts and data info. > Hammer me on the head if I am missing something - no > problem, lets just get it fixed - that is always my goal as a > Programmer or Analyst and knowing you and others there this > likely is the same bottom line. > Rick USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:talk- > [email protected]] On > Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected] > eyes.com> > Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up > again. > > Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to > everyone. It is also the email server that receives email that is > taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not > the case, this would be happening to more of us. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:talk- > [email protected]] > On Behalf Of joseph hudson via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:44 PM > To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes > Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up > again. > > Hello Rick, as I've joined this list to help others in just read tit > bits and pieces of information as I help people out with > technology on a daily basis. We were having the same issue a > couple weeks ago on the another list that I help them run. It is > part of the providers issues. So it's not anything that Square > can do so daunting that they can do, is talk to the provider > that's hosting their website. And it's up to them to take these > email addresses off the block list I hope this better answers > your questions, and everybody else’s. > Joseph Hudson > Email > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> I device > support Telephone > 2543007667 > Skype > joseph.hudson89 facebook > https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 > <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404> > Twitter > https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > > > On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally > > unnecessary from some work I have done. > > Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if > you get reinstated. > > You might try contacting AI Squared and asking why this > keeps > > happening over and over and don't let them tell you it is > your fault > > or someone elses fault. > > As faras I have determined it is their fault until I hear > diferently > > from someone on list or from AI Squared. > > Its simple, they fix the problem or not - that's their choice, > using > > WindowEyes, that's our choice. > > There are more solid screen readers out there, all be it much > more > > expensive than a relatively free WindowEyes, and if > WindowEyes cant > > even manage a e-mail list that is pretty bad indeed from a > technical Competency Viewpoint. > > Rick USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Talk > > [mailto:[email protected] > eyes.com] On > > Behalf Of Vince Morvillo via Talk > > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:50 PM > > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected] > eyes.com> > > Subject: got cut off again for bounces. 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