I never actually finished becoming a programmer, but I date back to the
punch card era, also. I took some programming in the 1971-72 year. Back
when the computer was a "computer room"! Boy how things have changed! Pam.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 2:53 AM
To: 'Tom Kingston' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sleep Mode Situation
Hi Tom: Man you have been doing this almost as long as I have you old grey
beard!
There have been various postings from the staff off and on on the scripting
list indicating what languages they were working with.
Also, the types of software they use and the implementation indicates a non
managed code environment as their development platform.
Their third party com API interface is not created in managed code so was
not developed under managed code.
Just allot of indicators point twoard the development environment including
some actual talk on the Scripting list about how WindowEyes was originally
coded many years ago.
I think, not sure, they used Small Talk at one time but don’t hold me to it
since it has been many years since I recall something along these lines.
Also the old timers were working in c++ but it was obviously outside a
managed code environment.
Add these and allot of other things including recommended, and I think used
by them, text editers up and you can get a pretty good idea of their
development environment in general and it doesn’t point to Visual Studio as
any primary development platform.
To me it doesn’t matter what platform a developer works in but I do always
recommend using the right tool for the job whenever possible.
C++ is a fine, well broken in programming language with exceptional
low-level capabilities.
But with these come the responsibilities of doing allot of things that can
be dangerous if not done very well and allot of design and programming
overhead of things better done in other languages if the project is to be
run under Windows and more so if not developed under a managed code
environment.
The .net framework is one powerful set of rapid development features that
are designed to run together under windows to give the best performance and
most solid and robust user experience.
It has millions and millions of users, has been tweaked over decades to be
pretty much rock solid, flexible and avoid things that programmers might
miss when coding outside the .net environment and even is implementing
parallelism and sync methods.
The only other platform that I think you might find as solid would be the
Apple Platform but I have never developed against it so not sure but it too
has tens or hundreds of millions of developers having provided input into
its development like the Microsoft .net platform.
I liked the IBM languages when I worked mainframes but these days they use
allot of software that is only somewhat accessible with a screen reader
while the Microsoft Platform is very, very accessible.
I am no longer a Programmer nor a Database Admin but just a individual who
uses the computer to get things done in my real life and, since they don’t
exist or are not accessible, I develop my own projects using high-level
languages like vb.net or the Visual Studio Web Platform and the sql server
tools under their .net platform for fast and rock solid finished products
developed in a fraction of the time it would take me to do it in any of the
non .net framework, low level languages.
The software I develop under the .net framework just flat out works and is
totally accessible and I have been running my .net programs for over 10
years now with very few tweaks other than feature enhancements including
various databases and even websites and web services encorporated into the
mix.
This is the right tool for the job I do and I would think a good
consideration for other projects that would be run against the Windows
operating system.
With the advent of Visual Studio 2015 I understand that you can create
projects for other platforms, non windows based, as well as cell phones of
various configurations but that is outside my wheelhouse but it sure sounds
like there are some tools there to enhance the development of large scale
projects, including scrum project management tools, by a smaller staff.
I too have worked in many low-level languages, started back in the late
1970s and am leaving all the low-level stuff to the young bucks these days
in favor of high-level languages to create my personal Investment Platform
and other tools I find handy.
It is good to hear from another developer who dates back to the punched card
era, or close to it - smile.
There arent many of us around on the lists I am on.
Later and take care Tom:
Rick USA
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