Hello Brandon,

What a great post!  Please frequently post to this list on Windows 10 and
Window-Eyes issues, for your expertise is greatly needed on this list.

The best, Peter Duran

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Subject: Wineyes and Windows 10 oddities

I'm using Windows 10 home, version 1511, OS build 10586.71. I'm also using
Window-eyes 9.3.1. I am currently doing my best to contend with annoyances
such as:
1.  When I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes frequently says nothing at
all. If I want to confirm that anything has taken place at all, I often have
to press the Wineyes read title bar command, Ctrl+shift+T.
2.  I'm a Microsoft certified systems engineer, so I frequently go in and
delete a whole batch of files from places like the temp, %temp%, and
prefetch folders to not only free up disk space, but to also maintain high
overall system stability and responsiveness. Often times in Windows
10 however, just as above I am almost always greeted by nothing except total
silence from Wineyes about halfway through this seemingly simple operation.
Because of my educational background, and the level of familiarity that I
have regarding internal/background Windows processes, services and
structures, I've been able to deduce that as a blind person using
Window-eyes, you've usually got to alt+tab around to find the screen where
you have to use the Wineyes mouse reading commands to click on the "Continue
with automatic administrator rights" button, and in the same screen I also
have to use the Wineyes mouse reading keys since I tend to put a check in
the checkbox that says, "Do this for all items".
3.  If you access the start button and select settings, although the screens
within are mostly accessible, the mouse reading commands can get tripped up
and are read out by Wineyes in either a nonsensical, or undesirable way. To
experience for yourself what I'm talking about, do the following:
A.  Access the start menu.
B.  Press up arrow until you get to settings. Press enter on settings.
C.  Press right arrow once to move the cursor, and subsequently the focus
to, the devices category and press enter.
D.  At this point, the category that should be automatically selected for
you by default will more than likely be printers and scanners. 
That's fine.
E.  Now press tab four times, and you should arrive at some kind of checkbox
regarding metered internet connections.
Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly when tabbing through the screen,
and I can't get the mouse reading keys to get to that checkbox either! I am
able to get the Wineyes mouse reading keys to let me access the first
checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for example says, "Let Windows
manage my default printer". The second checkbox on this screen however, is
not reading properly at all.
4.  Last but not least, Window-eyes is giving me all kinds of problems when
trying to do something as simple as write an email with Thunderbird! I'll be
in the middle of composing a simple, old fashioned, plane text email, when
suddenly and without any kind of warning, Window-eyes'll just start
announcing my title bar as untitled, and not read anything in either the
subject, or body fields of the message. I ensure that the window is
maximized, makes no difference. I press 
Ctrl+alt+W to relaunch Window-eyes, which sometimes does, and sometimes
doesn't make any difference. I've tried uninstalling the TB Enhance app,
thinking that it might not have exactly kept pace with Mozilla's Thunderbird
development team, but doing so also unfortunately made no discernible
difference. I've had to re-launch Window-eyes literally no less than four
times while composing this message alone!
What's up with all these little annoying problems I'm experiencing with
regard to Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody else contending with
stuff like this?

P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the Read To Me app isn't working in
Thunderbird either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee you I've set it up
correctly, I would know since I've used it successfully before on this PC in
both Firefox 43, and Internet Explorer 11. Right now though, Ctrl+shift+r at
the top of the message? Nothing. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of the message?
Nada. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of a line in the middle of the message?
Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives!

Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that this communication is being
monitored by the National Security Agency or GCHQ.
I   neither condone, or support, any such policy by any Government authority
that does not comply appropriately as stipulated by the fourth Amendment of
the constitution of the United States of America.

Brandon Dean Miller

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