I've also noticed that WE will a lot of the time place the reading cursor in
the middle of a webpage instead of the top. I can hit ctrl home and go to
the top of the page but this is kinda frustrating to have to do this all the
time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Miller via Talk
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 5:39 AM
To: [email protected] ; [email protected]
Subject: Wineyes and Windows 10 oddities
I'm using Windows 10 home, version 1511, OS build 10586.71. I'm also
using Window-eyes 9.3.1. I am currently doing my best to contend with
annoyances such as:
1. When I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes frequently says nothing
at all. If I want to confirm that anything has taken place at all, I
often have to press the Wineyes read title bar command, Ctrl+shift+T.
2. I'm a Microsoft certified systems engineer, so I frequently go in
and delete a whole batch of files from places like the temp, %temp%, and
prefetch folders to not only free up disk space, but to also maintain
high overall system stability and responsiveness. Often times in Windows
10 however, just as above I am almost always greeted by nothing except
total silence from Wineyes about halfway through this seemingly simple
operation. Because of my educational background, and the level of
familiarity that I have regarding internal/background Windows processes,
services and structures, I've been able to deduce that as a blind person
using Window-eyes, you've usually got to alt+tab around to find the
screen where you have to use the Wineyes mouse reading commands to click
on the "Continue with automatic administrator rights" button, and in the
same screen I also have to use the Wineyes mouse reading keys since I
tend to put a check in the checkbox that says, "Do this for all items".
3. If you access the start button and select settings, although the
screens within are mostly accessible, the mouse reading commands can get
tripped up and are read out by Wineyes in either a nonsensical, or
undesirable way. To experience for yourself what I'm talking about, do
the following:
A. Access the start menu.
B. Press up arrow until you get to settings. Press enter on settings.
C. Press right arrow once to move the cursor, and subsequently the
focus to, the devices category and press enter.
D. At this point, the category that should be automatically selected
for you by default will more than likely be printers and scanners.
That's fine.
E. Now press tab four times, and you should arrive at some kind of
checkbox regarding metered internet connections.
Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly when tabbing through the
screen, and I can't get the mouse reading keys to get to that checkbox
either! I am able to get the Wineyes mouse reading keys to let me access
the first checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for example says,
"Let Windows manage my default printer". The second checkbox on this
screen however, is not reading properly at all.
4. Last but not least, Window-eyes is giving me all kinds of problems
when trying to do something as simple as write an email with
Thunderbird! I'll be in the middle of composing a simple, old fashioned,
plane text email, when suddenly and without any kind of warning,
Window-eyes'll just start announcing my title bar as untitled, and not
read anything in either the subject, or body fields of the message. I
ensure that the window is maximized, makes no difference. I press
Ctrl+alt+W to relaunch Window-eyes, which sometimes does, and sometimes
doesn't make any difference. I've tried uninstalling the TB Enhance app,
thinking that it might not have exactly kept pace with Mozilla's
Thunderbird development team, but doing so also unfortunately made no
discernible difference. I've had to re-launch Window-eyes literally no
less than four times while composing this message alone!
What's up with all these little annoying problems I'm experiencing with
regard to Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody else contending
with stuff like this?
P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the Read To Me app isn't
working in Thunderbird either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee you I've
set it up correctly, I would know since I've used it successfully before
on this PC in both Firefox 43, and Internet Explorer 11. Right now
though, Ctrl+shift+r at the top of the message? Nothing. Ctrl+shift+r in
the middle of the message? Nada. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of a line in
the middle of the message? Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives!
Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that this communication is being
monitored by the National Security Agency or GCHQ.
I neither condone, or support, any such policy by any Government authority
that does not comply appropriately as stipulated by the fourth Amendment of
the constitution of the United States of America.
Brandon Dean Miller
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