Hi Elizabeth, Regretfully, your observation about NVDA does not provide any additional insight into the loss of speech issue you experienced. We need you to provide your computer system specs and exact steps to duplicate the problem to help.
Thanks, Marc -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:08 AM To: Simon Cavendish <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Wineyes and Windows 10 oddities I have both Window-eyes and NVDA on my system. When Window-eyes goes silent, I start NVDA. Often, starting NVDA makes Window-eyes begin to speak again. No idea whatsoever about what causes this behavior. I hope it serves as a clue to the Window-eyes developers though when they go toward solving this problem of Window-eyes going silent without warning. Elizabeth At 09:50 AM 1/29/2016, you wrote: >Yes, I’ve been experiencing having to relaunch Window-eyes again and >again because it suddenly goes quiet on me and I don’t know what’s >going on. I don’t think window-eyes is ready for windows 10. Simon > >On 29 Jan 2016, at 11:39, Brandon Miller via Talk ><[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm using Windows 10 home, >version 1511, OS build 10586.71. I'm also using Window-eyes 9.3.1. I am >currently doing my best to contend with annoyances such as: > 1. When >I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes frequently says nothing at all. >If I want to confirm that anything has taken place at all, I often have >to press the Wineyes read title bar command, Ctrl+shift+T. > 2. I'm a >Microsoft certified systems engineer, so I frequently go in and delete >a whole batch of files from places like the temp, %temp%, and prefetch >folders to not only free up disk space, but to also maintain high >overall system stability and responsiveness. Often times in Windows 10 >however, just as above I am almost always greeted by nothing except >total silence from Wineyes about halfway through this seemingly simple >operation. Because of my educational background, and the level of >familiarity that I have regarding internal/background Windows >processes, services and structures, I've been able to deduce that as a >blind person using Window-eyes, you've usually got to alt+tab around to >find the screen where you have to use the Wineyes mouse reading >commands to click on the "Continue with automatic administrator rights" >button, and in the same screen I also have to use the Wineyes mouse >reading keys since I tend to put a check in the checkbox that says, "Do >this for all items". > 3. If you access the start button and select >settings, although the screens within are mostly accessible, the mouse >reading commands can get tripped up and are read out by Wineyes in >either a nonsensical, or undesirable way. To experience for yourself >what I'm talking about, do the following: > A. Access the start menu. >> B. Press up arrow until you get to settings. >Press enter on settings. > C. Press right arrow once to move the >cursor, and subsequently the focus to, the devices category and press >enter. > D. At this point, the category that should be automatically >selected for you by default will more than likely be printers and >scanners. That's fine. > E. Now press tab four times, and you should >arrive at some kind of checkbox regarding metered internet connections. >> Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly when tabbing through the >screen, and I can't get the mouse reading keys to get to that checkbox >either! I am able to get the Wineyes mouse reading keys to let me >access the first checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for example >says, "Let Windows manage my default printer". The second checkbox on >this screen however, is not reading properly at all. > 4. Last but not >least, Window-eyes is giving me all kinds of problems when trying to do >something as simple as write an email with Thunderbird! I'll be in the >middle of composing a simple, old fashioned, plane text email, when >suddenly and without any kind of warning, Window-eyes'll just start >announcing my title bar as untitled, and not read anything in either >the subject, or body fields of the message. I ensure that the window is >maximized, makes no difference. I press Ctrl+alt+W to relaunch >Window-eyes, which sometimes does, and sometimes doesn't make any >difference. I've tried uninstalling the TB Enhance app, thinking that >it might not have exactly kept pace with Mozilla's Thunderbird >development team, but doing so also unfortunately made no discernible >difference. I've had to re-launch Window-eyes literally no less than >four times while composing this message alone! > What's up with all >these little annoying problems I'm experiencing with regard to Windows >10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody else contending with stuff like >this? > > P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the Read To Me app >isn't working in Thunderbird either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee >you I've set it up correctly, I would know since I've used it >successfully before on this PC in both Firefox 43, and Internet >Explorer 11. Right now though, >Ctrl+shift+r at the top of the message? Nothing. >Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of the message? Nada. >Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of a line in the >middle of the message? Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives! > >> Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that this communication is >being monitored by the National Security Agency or >GCHQ. > I neither condone, or support, any >such policy by any Government authority that does not comply >appropriately as stipulated by the fourth Amendment of the constitution >of the United States of America. > > Brandon Dean Miller > > >_______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For >membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/simon.cavendish%40gmail.com. > > For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >_______________________________________________ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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