the other thing is most of the time when w e stops talking or when it crashes
all to gether no error report is generated. if it did i think this would help
on the other hand many users don't want to be bothered haveing to send these
reports.
maybe if you could improve on reporting but have an option in the w e control
panel to set the level of the reporting this could satisfy everyone.
like you could have normal mode and advanced mode. then if some one is haveing
alot of hangs and crashes they could turn on advanced mode to report all hangs
or crashes.
maybe also have a option to generate a report for the geeks with all the errors
the reports send to aisquared.
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Cavendish via Talk
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:50 AM
To: Brandon Miller ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Wineyes and Windows 10 oddities
Yes, I’ve been experiencing having to relaunch Window-eyes again and again
because it suddenly goes quiet on me and I don’t know what’s going on. I don’t
think window-eyes is ready for windows 10.
Simon
On 29 Jan 2016, at 11:39, Brandon Miller via Talk
<[email protected]> wrote:
I'm using Windows 10 home, version 1511, OS build 10586.71. I'm also using
Window-eyes 9.3.1. I am currently doing my best to contend with annoyances
such as:
1. When I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes frequently says nothing at
all. If I want to confirm that anything has taken place at all, I often have
to press the Wineyes read title bar command, Ctrl+shift+T.
2. I'm a Microsoft certified systems engineer, so I frequently go in and
delete a whole batch of files from places like the temp, %temp%, and prefetch
folders to not only free up disk space, but to also maintain high overall
system stability and responsiveness. Often times in Windows 10 however, just
as above I am almost always greeted by nothing except total silence from
Wineyes about halfway through this seemingly simple operation. Because of my
educational background, and the level of familiarity that I have regarding
internal/background Windows processes, services and structures, I've been
able to deduce that as a blind person using Window-eyes, you've usually got
to alt+tab around to find the screen where you have to use the Wineyes mouse
reading commands to click on the "Continue with automatic administrator
rights" button, and in the same screen I also have to use the Wineyes mouse
reading keys since I tend to put a check in the checkbox that says, "Do this
for all items".
3. If you access the start button and select settings, although the screens
within are mostly accessible, the mouse reading commands can get tripped up
and are read out by Wineyes in either a nonsensical, or undesirable way. To
experience for yourself what I'm talking about, do the following:
A. Access the start menu.
B. Press up arrow until you get to settings. Press enter on settings.
C. Press right arrow once to move the cursor, and subsequently the focus to,
the devices category and press enter.
D. At this point, the category that should be automatically selected for you
by default will more than likely be printers and scanners. That's fine.
E. Now press tab four times, and you should arrive at some kind of checkbox
regarding metered internet connections.
Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly when tabbing through the screen,
and I can't get the mouse reading keys to get to that checkbox either! I am
able to get the Wineyes mouse reading keys to let me access the first
checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for example says, "Let Windows
manage my default printer". The second checkbox on this screen however, is
not reading properly at all.
4. Last but not least, Window-eyes is giving me all kinds of problems when
trying to do something as simple as write an email with Thunderbird! I'll be
in the middle of composing a simple, old fashioned, plane text email, when
suddenly and without any kind of warning, Window-eyes'll just start
announcing my title bar as untitled, and not read anything in either the
subject, or body fields of the message. I ensure that the window is
maximized, makes no difference. I press Ctrl+alt+W to relaunch Window-eyes,
which sometimes does, and sometimes doesn't make any difference. I've tried
uninstalling the TB Enhance app, thinking that it might not have exactly kept
pace with Mozilla's Thunderbird development team, but doing so also
unfortunately made no discernible difference. I've had to re-launch
Window-eyes literally no less than four times while composing this message
alone!
What's up with all these little annoying problems I'm experiencing with
regard to Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody else contending with
stuff like this?
P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the Read To Me app isn't working in
Thunderbird either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee you I've set it up
correctly, I would know since I've used it successfully before on this PC in
both Firefox 43, and Internet Explorer 11. Right now though, Ctrl+shift+r at
the top of the message? Nothing. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of the message?
Nada. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of a line in the middle of the message?
Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives!
Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that this communication is being
monitored by the National Security Agency or GCHQ.
I neither condone, or support, any such policy by any Government authority
that does not comply appropriately as stipulated by the fourth Amendment of
the constitution of the United States of America.
Brandon Dean Miller
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