Reading the postings it seems that this problem is not unique to WindowEyes but is perhaps worse in WindowEyes. There are indications that it happens most often in Internet Explorer or, at least, is most identifyable in InternetExplorer with the dialog that InternetExplorer says the program is not responding (same dialog when JAWS locked up in Internet Explorer) but WindowEyes will not usually notify you the problem has occurred and just locks up - this should be fixed by AISquared so we can be notified and close the offending program. Note that it is likely not Internet Explorer lockinng up but some program being called or used by Internet Explorer like one that might display an ad or flash or something because closing the program that is not responding does not close Internet Explorer but after closing the program not responding you are still in Internet Explorer and can continue working in that program. Some have noticed better results when not using background processes like the automagic update of synced programs like cloud related programs, note that OneNote and other things that come with our Operating Systems also can be using these types of features by default. Also, there allot of Live Tiles that will access the internet automagically and send or gather information from external online web pages and, or, web services which is akin to using a cloud service in that both have to access something on the internet and thus prone to internet transmission and many other problems. Even programs that you would think wouldn't access the internet from your desktop might be doing something online behind the scenes so this is one possible avenue but tonarrow things down we can do a few things. First, you folks who use Mazilla and Chrome for your browsers, have you noticed any lockups at all using WindowEyes? Second, the next time I get a Internet Explorer lockup I will try and hit the Debug button instead of the close button to see what I can find out about the error like what program(s) are related to it if the error will give me that much detail. I forget the WindowEyes hot key to copy a MessageBox which is usually not able to be read with the normal arrow keys, anyone remember it off the top of your head? Rick USA
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:56 PM To: Pamela Dominguez <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? I don't have iCloud either. And I don't have the crashes. So, it has to be something else. Tom On 2/17/2016 3:31 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: > I don't have it on any of my computers, and don't plan to. So, it has > to be something else. Pam. > > -----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:35 PM > To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? > > I don't have I cloud installed. I did on my windows 8 pc and it caused > problems there. LOL > > -----Original Message----- From: John Farley via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:19 AM > To: 'Tom Kingston' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Rick Thomas' > Subject: RE: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? > > Tom, in a note a short while ago I have suggested that it might be iCloud > that is having such an impact. > > > > Regards, John > > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM > To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? > > Something else must be causing all these IE crashes you folks are > getting because it never crashes on me. Well, maybe once or twice a year. > > Tom > > > On 2/17/2016 10:41 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: >> Yes: It seems JAWS also encounters the same problem but it allows for >> working with the close program dialog. >> So it is not a problem unique to WindowEyes. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On >> Behalf Of Elizabeth via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:48 AM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? >> >> I actually never thought Window-eyes was causing the browser crashing >> problem in IE. I just know Window-eyes does not announce the crash >> and NVDA lets me know what is happening by announcing the crash once >> I invoke NVDA. >> By the way, using more than one screen reader to accomplish various >> tasks is something folks have been doing for twenty years. So having >> two screen readers on your system just makes good sense to me. >> >> Elizabeth >> >> At 09:17 AM 2/17/2016, you wrote: >>> I have some sight and when I have had this problem, I have shut >>> down Window Eyes and tried IE and I get the same dialog "IE has >>> stopped working". 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