I personally don't like the NVDA version of Eloquence. I could never get it
to save the settings I chose.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:11 PM
To: 'Gary Metzler' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes
Hi Gary. You can't use the voices for nvda that you bought with Window-eyes,
but NVDA has Eloquence, DECtalk, vocalizer, etc, as addons. It also is
portible and you can take it anywhere you want without installing video
intercept drivers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Gary Metzler via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 1:14 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
Hi All,
If I switch to nvda can I use my we vocalizer voices that I paid for?
Thanks,
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:37 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
You are completely forgetting NVDA which is a free option, and it's actually
a screenreader worth using. it's not a toy a couple people put together, it
actually works a lot better than a lot of folks think.
So, if Window-eyes does eventually stop being developed, there is
absolutely no reason why you can't download a free copy of NVDA and use
that.
On 10/3/2016 6:28 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
It is going to be a hard decision when the time comes to pay $1000.00
for JAWS or spend that same money for a Apple based laptop.
On 10/3/2016 5:23 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
But others within the VFO group can speak about the future of JFW,
and there is clealry some integration between JFW developments and
plans involving Zoomtext, which is an AI Squared product.
And yes: this is speculation caused by uncertainty.
I'm glad we are having this discussion.
Vaughan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]
m]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2016 11:15 a.m.
To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
None of us, probably not even the guys at AI Squared are even able to
speak about the future of Window-eyes until it is time to do so. So
all this thread really does is create what some in the online world
call fud. Fear, uncertainty and doubt.
On 10/3/2016 4:54 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
I think that Microsoft is the one who is subsidizes the Window Eyes
for Office.
----- Original Message -----
From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
To: 'Reeva Webb' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes
Yes: paying customers do have certain rights, one of which to
complain.
I'm in that paying customer group, who subsidise the Window-eyes
for Office programme, and actually, as a paying customer, get less
and less of what I've paid for.
As our numbers diminish, so Window-eyes becomes less viable as a
distinctive, commercially driven product.
For those who say use NVDA - not for me - its braille support is
worse than Window-eyes. So - it may well be JFW which I reluctantly
purchase, or I stay with Window-Eyes the performance of which is now
lagging in a number of areas.
So VFO: talk to your paying customers.
Vaughan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]
om]
On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2016 3:26 a.m.
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
Countdown to the demise of we y'all. I been calling it, we and
fusion will be killed, magic will be put to it's deserved death fs
always knew magic sucked and was a complete joke. The shark and zt
will be made to work together and we'll be offered oh, so great upgrade
pricing sarcasm.
Of course people are now gonna say stop complaining. When i'm
spending my own money on something i have a right to complain. Fs's
upgrade model is stupid to update my old copy of the shark and magic
would cost a arm, leg and first born child.
On Monday, October 3, 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk
<[email protected]>
wrote:
> If I'm stuck with using JAWS, I hope someone comes out with a
> alternate keyboard layout for NVDA to make it use all of the
same hot
> keys as Window Eyes.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Sky Mundell via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:04 PM
> To: 'Butch Bussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes
>
> Hi. Its understandable why you would not mess with JAWS. I have
to use
> JAWS for my work as a musician and recording engineer, but
detest it
> for its copy-protection. I also work as a adaptive technology
> instructor and can use both alongside of NVDA to teach clients.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Butch Bussen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 7:58 PM
> To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
>
> We all know window-eyes is going away, we just don't know when. No
> way are they going to support two screen readers. I won't have
jaws
> on my system. I refuse to mess with their copy protection scheme.
> Only thing I wonder is what they'll do with remaining s m a.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
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