Hi Doug,
I've used vocal-eyes and then Window-eyes since 1992. Glad you guys are on the level with us.
Vinny

-----Original Message----- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:36 AM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: history of window eyes

Dennis and all,

I've been getting this question a lot lately.  Here is how I've been and
continue responding until I know more:

We are still early in the merger between Ai Squared and VFO so it is a
bit early to know how all this will ultimately play out.  But please
rest assured no matter what happens, we will make sure that Window-Eyes
users will not be left behind.  As we continue we will certainly make
clear what our plans are moving forward and how this may or may not
impact you.  But again, we will not take your years of loyalty for granted.

Regards,
Doug

On 10/18/2016 2:14 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
Doug is there any word if window Eyes will be staying around?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Geoffray via Talk"
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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: history of window eyes


Just wanted to correct a few things (smile).

Malcolm created Screen-Talk which later became Screen-Talk Pro (linked
with ProKey).  As stated, he may of wanted to call this Vocal-Eyes but
Bill Grimm didn't like that name, at the time.  I had nothing to do with
Screen-Talk.  I did create most of the Apple 2 software such as
Braille-Out which later turned to Braille-Talk, and Word-Talk and
File-Talk and Term-Talk (prior to Term-Talk it was Talking Transend) and
several other smaller things as well as the TTS engine for all Sounding
Board variants.  I also created all the software for the Small-Talk
portable computer, except for the Calc-Talk module, ah, fun times
(smile).

In 1988 I started from scratch with Vocal-Eyes.  This was completely
different from the work Malcolm did.  I almost finished Vocal-Eyes when
Bill Grimm got burnt out and decided to close Computer Aids, which
officially closed November 1989.  I had started working at Computer Aids
in the early 80's as a contractor and around 1983 started full time as
an employee.  Dan Weirich started around 1987ish and worked on the
hardware.  So after Computer Aids closed in 1989, Dan and I started GW
Micro February 15, 1990.  I spent another 6 or so months finalizing
Vocal-Eyes and released it right after that.  As for Bill Grimm, he did
die but it was a few years later...I can't remember the exact year but
it was around 1994 or 95.

We started working on Window-Eyes around 1994 and released 1.0 in
October 1995.

Doug

On 10/17/2016 2:41 PM, Dave Basden via Talk wrote:
I might add that Malcolm, who worked as a ranger at Yosemite near
Fresno where I lived at the time, initially called his PC screenreader
Vocal-Eyes and I was one of the beneficiaries.  He had originally
designed it for a fellow ranger at Yosemite who was only partially
sighted.  I still see his name on the lists occasionally. Bill Grimm
was then naming all his software releases Whatever-talk, so when
Malcolm teamed up with Computer Aids, the program was renamed Screen
Talk.  When Doug Geoffrey took over Computer Aids, he named his screen
reader Vocal-Eyes.  Apparently Malcolm had no objection to that.
Actually Doug wasn't even aware that the name had been used by
Malcolm.  Later GW Micro released Window-Eyes for Windows as, as you
know, Vocal-Eyes was a DOS screen reader.

Dave

At 04:02 AM 10/17/2016, you wrote:
I don't have time to write a very long message, but here's a little
of the story.
In the early 1980s Bill Grimm formed a company, Computer Aids
Corporation, to create software for the Apple II family of computers.
They teamed up with Malcolm Holser to create a screen reader for DOS
called Screen-Talk, which was released in 1985, which I bought and
used. In 1986 Screen-Talk was linked with ProKey, a macro program,
and its functionality was extended. Somewhere in there, Doug Geoffray
was hired as a programmer. In 1988 Computer Aids released the
Sounding Board, an ISA-compatible speech synthesizer that used the
SSI-263 speech chip that was common in those days. Dan Wyrick did
major work on that project. Near that time Bill Grimm died.
Dan and Doug put together a new company, GW Micro and marketed the
new-generation DOS screen reader as Vocal-Eyes.
The first Windows 3.0 screen reader was OutSpoken, released in the
summer of 1992. Later came Automatic Screen Access for Windows and
JAWS for Windows. Window-Eyes 1.0 came out quite late, in late 1995.
It worked with Windows 3 and 3.1, even though Windows 95 was already
out and had no screen reader support from anyone at first.
Window-Eyes 2 was the first W-E version to support Windows 95, and
came out in the spring of 1997, I think.
The revision history of Window-Eyes is on the GW Micro website, going
way back; it is instructive to read it to see where we have come from.


Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message----- From: Drew Clark via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:56 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: history of window eyes

hi,

i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created it
and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that
interviews the g and the w behind gw micro?

thanks


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