Thanks Kevin, I was thinking it was one of the Alva displays but I wasn't sure and even if it was, exactly what model.
Doug On 10/19/2016 12:39 PM, Kevin Huber wrote: > Hi Doug: > > I think the braille display that you are talking about is the Alva > 640. As far as I recall, the Alva 640 alows for contracted braille > input. > > Kevin Huber > > > On 10/18/16, Doug Geoffray via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello Roger, >> >> Wow, it has been a long time. I was not aware of your health issues but >> applaud you for telling those doctors/statisticians what they can do >> with their odds (smile)! >> >> Window-Eyes core never allowed for contracted braille input. This is >> something that could be added to the individual braille drivers and I >> thought there was a braille manufacturer which actually took advantage >> of that in their Window-Eyes braille driver but I'm not certain. >> Because most braille drivers are developed by the braille manufacturer, >> I lose track of what displays are out there and how they work with >> Window-Eyes. I've wanted to add contracted input into Window-Eyes core >> but have never gotten to it. It is still on the wish list. >> >> Regards, >> Doug >> >> On 10/18/2016 9:46 AM, Adaptive Information Systems Inc. wrote: >>> Hi Doug, >>> >>> I wanted to ask you about two way entry with Braille displays and >>> Window-eyes 9.53. >>> >>> If my memory is correct, I thought we had contracted two way entry with >>> Braille displays and the BrailleNote devices with earlier versions of >>> Window-eyes. >>> >>> I have customers who are using Window-eyes, like TVI teachers who own a >>> Brailliant BI display from HumanWare and can't do contracted Braille >>> input >>> from their Brailliant BI to the computer, like word or email, it is all >>> computer Braille only. >>> >>> I see that NVDA 2016.3 also is only doing computer Braille input too. >>> >>> While Jaws still offers contracted two way input from a Braille display. >>> >>> Is contracted two way input something that did happen years ago? >>> >>> Is this something that can be included in future releases of >>> Window-eyes? >>> >>> It is a pain to have to type in computer Braille using a perkins style >>> keyboard on a Braille display. >>> >>> Thank you for your time! >>> >>> I am still alive and kicking after 2013 and doctors gave me a 1% >>> diagnoses >>> that I would live and I beat that! But now I am fighting cancer of the >>> Prostate, Dam! >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Roger a. Behm, President >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Adaptive Information Systems Inc. >>> We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading Disabled >>> >>> Roger A. Behm, President >>> 1611 Clover Lane >>> Janesville WI 53545-1388 >>> Fax: 608-758-7898 >>> Voice: 608-758-0933 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:15 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: history of window eyes >>> >>> Just wanted to correct a few things (smile). >>> >>> Malcolm created Screen-Talk which later became Screen-Talk Pro (linked >>> with ProKey). As stated, he may of wanted to call this Vocal-Eyes but >>> Bill Grimm didn't like that name, at the time. I had nothing to do with >>> Screen-Talk. I did create most of the Apple 2 software such as >>> Braille-Out which later turned to Braille-Talk, and Word-Talk and >>> File-Talk and Term-Talk (prior to Term-Talk it was Talking Transend) and >>> several other smaller things as well as the TTS engine for all Sounding >>> Board variants. I also created all the software for the Small-Talk >>> portable computer, except for the Calc-Talk module, ah, fun times >>> (smile). >>> >>> In 1988 I started from scratch with Vocal-Eyes. This was completely >>> different from the work Malcolm did. I almost finished Vocal-Eyes when >>> Bill Grimm got burnt out and decided to close Computer Aids, which >>> officially closed November 1989. I had started working at Computer Aids >>> in the early 80's as a contractor and around 1983 started full time as >>> an employee. Dan Weirich started around 1987ish and worked on the >>> hardware. So after Computer Aids closed in 1989, Dan and I started GW >>> Micro February 15, 1990. I spent another 6 or so months finalizing >>> Vocal-Eyes and released it right after that. As for Bill Grimm, he did >>> die but it was a few years later...I can't remember the exact year but >>> it was around 1994 or 95. >>> >>> We started working on Window-Eyes around 1994 and released 1.0 in >>> October 1995. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> On 10/17/2016 2:41 PM, Dave Basden via Talk wrote: >>>> I might add that Malcolm, who worked as a ranger at Yosemite near >>>> Fresno where I lived at the time, initially called his PC screenreader >>>> Vocal-Eyes and I was one of the beneficiaries. He had originally >>>> designed it for a fellow ranger at Yosemite who was only partially >>>> sighted. I still see his name on the lists occasionally. Bill Grimm >>>> was then naming all his software releases Whatever-talk, so when >>>> Malcolm teamed up with Computer Aids, the program was renamed Screen >>>> Talk. When Doug Geoffrey took over Computer Aids, he named his screen >>>> reader Vocal-Eyes. Apparently Malcolm had no objection to that. >>>> Actually Doug wasn't even aware that the name had been used by >>>> Malcolm. Later GW Micro released Window-Eyes for Windows as, as you >>>> know, Vocal-Eyes was a DOS screen reader. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> At 04:02 AM 10/17/2016, you wrote: >>>>> I don't have time to write a very long message, but here's a little >>>>> of the story. >>>>> In the early 1980s Bill Grimm formed a company, Computer Aids >>>>> Corporation, to create software for the Apple II family of computers. >>>>> They teamed up with Malcolm Holser to create a screen reader for DOS >>>>> called Screen-Talk, which was released in 1985, which I bought and >>>>> used. In 1986 Screen-Talk was linked with ProKey, a macro program, >>>>> and its functionality was extended. Somewhere in there, Doug Geoffray >>>>> was hired as a programmer. In 1988 Computer Aids released the >>>>> Sounding Board, an ISA-compatible speech synthesizer that used the >>>>> SSI-263 speech chip that was common in those days. Dan Wyrick did >>>>> major work on that project. Near that time Bill Grimm died. >>>>> Dan and Doug put together a new company, GW Micro and marketed the >>>>> new-generation DOS screen reader as Vocal-Eyes. >>>>> The first Windows 3.0 screen reader was OutSpoken, released in the >>>>> summer of 1992. Later came Automatic Screen Access for Windows and >>>>> JAWS for Windows. Window-Eyes 1.0 came out quite late, in late 1995. >>>>> It worked with Windows 3 and 3.1, even though Windows 95 was already >>>>> out and had no screen reader support from anyone at first. >>>>> Window-Eyes 2 was the first W-E version to support Windows 95, and >>>>> came out in the spring of 1997, I think. >>>>> The revision history of Window-Eyes is on the GW Micro website, going >>>>> way back; it is instructive to read it to see where we have come from. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD >>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Drew Clark via Talk >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:56 AM >>>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>>> Subject: history of window eyes >>>>> >>>>> hi, >>>>> >>>>> i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created it >>>>> and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that >>>>> interviews the g and the w behind gw micro? >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent using window eyes. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>> >>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>> >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet >>> .com. >>>>> For subscription options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> List archives can be found at >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>> >>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>> >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dave%40basden. >>> us. >>>>> For subscription options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> List archives can be found at >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgeoffray%40ai >>> squared.com. >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author >>> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/aistech%40amer >>> itech.net. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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