I started using Vocal-eyes 2.0 in late 1991. Hard to believe it will be 25
years soon since then. GW micro was a great company and I always love
dealing with it.
  It doesn't look good now, and I will just say, I shall never, ever, use
Jaws. I do not care about new management or new ownership. It is tainted
beyond repair with me. Besides that, there are certain things they still
cannot do right.
  I will continue to use what I have, and perhaps use NVDA if necessary. At
some point, I expect to transition to iOS full-time.
Doug was and is a wonderful person and we all benefited greatly from his
efforts.

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Waw what a nostalgia this morning, I remember that my first computer that
> ever used was the Amstrad PC with 5.25inch floppy disk and with the votrax
> type n' talk speech synthesizer.  Later I switch to  the double talk speech
> synthesizer and the ASAP for dos screen reader, at that time the
> WordPerfect 5.1 word processor was the best accessible word processor for
> us the blind. Although today I'm feeling comfortable with Microsoft word,
> but I'm still missing that WordPerfect for DOS.
>
> Anyway, as they say, every good thing, sometimes comes to an end. Now it
> is the time for window eyes unfortunately.
>
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> gov...@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:25
> To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: history of window eyes
>
> Hi there!
>
> My first windows screen reader was Artic Winvision.  Yes I do like
> Window-Eyes, but I thought that Winvision was the easiest to configure
> on the fly as well as use straight from the box.  We have come along
> ways since then, and I really do appreciate the ease of use with W.E.
> My first and only DOS screen reader was called TinyTalk.  It was
> referred to as the poor man's screen reader since I only paid $75 for
> it. Just a bit of my history with screen readers.  Have a Good 1! de
>
> <KF8LT><Jim>.
>
>
> On 18-Oct-16 10:54, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> > Window bridge was the first windows screenreader I got for my first
> > windows computer, which was a Gateway 2000, with windows 98.  Pam.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: David Goldfield via Talk
> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:52 PM
> > To: Jeff Samco ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: history of window eyes
> >
> > I'd like to add a few tidbits to this most fascinating thread.
> >
> > In addition to the Windows screen readers which were mentioned,
> > Synthavoice's Window Bridge came out sometime in 1992, if my memory is
> > correct. While I have not used that screen reader, another one that many
> > have forgotten is Windows Master, which was produced by Blazie
> > Engineering for Windows 3.1. I began working for Blazie Engineering in
> > May of 1991 and, at that time, they had a DOS screen reader called
> > Speaksys. Speaksys cost $150 and only supported the Braille 'n Speak as
> > a synthesizer. However, it was unique in that it also allowed the Bns to
> > be used for Braille input to a PC and I believe it even supported Grade
> > 2 input. Eventually, the screen reader was enhanced with new features to
> > try and bring it in line with other DOS screen readers at that time. Its
> > name was changed to PCMaster and its price was raised to $395.
> > Eventually, a talented programmer named Daehee Lee was hired to write a
> > Windows version of this screen reader, which was called Windows Master.
> > It also used a Bns for output (and I think input) and supported the SSIL
> > library of synthesizers as well. I believe Windows Master came out in
> > the summer of 1992 and may well have been the third or fourth Windows
> > screen reader at that time, although I'm certainly willing to be
> > corrected if this is incorrect. Actually, I vaguely remember hearing
> > about what I think was the first Windows screen reader before Window
> > Bridge, although its name now escapes me and I don't think it lasted
> > more than a few years.
> >
> > This thread reminds me of a blog post from Chris Hoffstader (sp) who
> > talked about the importance of those of us who have memories of this
> > technology to document it online for posterity. I thought he had
> > established a wiki for that purpose but my recent searches aren't
> > locating it.
> >
> >
> >
> >       David Goldfield,
> > Assistive Technology Specialist
> >
> > Feel free to visit my Web site
> > WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
> >
> > On 10/17/2016 11:18 PM, Jeff Samco via Talk wrote:
> >> Yes, Malcom Holser wrote the original Vocal-Eyes for my use. Malcom
> >> was very gifted in many ways. He was a coworker as I worked as an
> >> interpretive ranger in Yosemite.  In 1985 we went in together and
> >> purchased a used IBM PC 8086 with 256 KB of RAM and 2 double-sided
> >> 5.25-inch floppy disc drives. Since it was used it only cost us
> >> $3,000! Malcolm learned to program in assembler in writing Vocal-Eyes.
> >> I also believe I was the first user of a screen reader to use Word
> >> Perfect and alerted them to how well it worked with a screen reader. I
> >> offered various suggestions to improve its accessibility. Many screen
> >> reader users used this elegant and powerful word processor.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> At 11:41 AM 10/17/2016, you wrote:
> >>> I might add that Malcolm, who worked as a ranger at Yosemite near
> >>> Fresno where I lived at the time, initially called his PC
> >>> screenreader Vocal-Eyes and I was one of the beneficiaries. He had
> >>> originally designed it for a fellow ranger at Yosemite who was only
> >>> partially sighted.  I still see his name on the lists occasionally.
> >>> Bill Grimm was then naming all his software releases Whatever-talk,
> >>> so when Malcolm teamed up with Computer Aids, the program was renamed
> >>> Screen Talk. When Doug Geoffrey took over Computer Aids, he named his
> >>> screen reader Vocal-Eyes.  Apparently Malcolm had no objection to
> >>> that.  Actually Doug wasn't even aware that the name had been used by
> >>> Malcolm.  Later GW Micro released Window-Eyes for Windows as, as you
> >>> know, Vocal-Eyes was a DOS screen reader.
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> At 04:02 AM 10/17/2016, you wrote:
> >>>> I don't have time to write a very long message, but here's a little
> >>>> of the story.
> >>>> In the early 1980s Bill Grimm formed a company, Computer Aids
> >>>> Corporation, to create software for the Apple II family of
> >>>> computers. They teamed up with Malcolm Holser to create a screen
> >>>> reader for DOS called Screen-Talk, which was released in 1985, which
> >>>> I bought and used. In 1986 Screen-Talk was linked with ProKey, a
> >>>> macro program, and its functionality was extended. Somewhere in
> >>>> there, Doug Geoffray was hired as a programmer. In 1988 Computer
> >>>> Aids released the Sounding Board, an ISA-compatible speech
> >>>> synthesizer that used the SSI-263 speech chip that was common in
> >>>> those days. Dan Wyrick did major work on that project. Near that
> >>>> time Bill Grimm died.
> >>>> Dan and Doug put together a new company, GW Micro and marketed the
> >>>> new-generation DOS screen reader as Vocal-Eyes.
> >>>> The first Windows 3.0 screen reader was OutSpoken, released in the
> >>>> summer of 1992. Later came Automatic Screen Access for Windows and
> >>>> JAWS for Windows. Window-Eyes 1.0 came out quite late, in late 1995.
> >>>> It worked with Windows 3 and 3.1, even though Windows 95 was already
> >>>> out and had no screen reader support from anyone at first.
> >>>> Window-Eyes 2 was the first W-E version to support Windows 95, and
> >>>> came out in the spring of 1997, I think.
> >>>> The revision history of Window-Eyes is on the GW Micro website,
> >>>> going way back; it is instructive to read it to see where we have
> >>>> come from.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> >>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Drew Clark via Talk
> >>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:56 AM
> >>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >>>> Subject: history of window eyes
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> >>>> hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created it
> >>>> and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that
> >>>> interviews the g and the w behind gw micro?
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks
> >>>>
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