Have been a WE user since version 1.1 if my memory serves me correctly. Seeing the writing on the wall I have began the process of learning NVDA and I am finding it very useable. I think that GW sold us out a long time ago and the only direction WE will now go is down. So sorry to think and say that as I have always felt that WE was the best scren reader out there. I guess nothing lasts forever in todays world.

On 11/22/2016 4:46 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
I have made that decision with respect to personal computing.

Hauled out my MacBook purchased over a year ago last weekend.  Got sighted 
assistance to crank into proper life. And made real progress with VoiceOver.  A 
long way to go, but I plan to buy the book from Mosen Consulting on learning to 
use Pages. Already using Mail and plan to play with Safari very soon.   Ok: 
Apple's customer service isn't great either, (apart from sales), but 
accessibility is better than the VFO and Microsoft combination, and for me it 
is a point of principle now.

Maybe I'm unreasonable.  When Humanware shifted out of New Zealand (where I 
live) I decided never to buy another Humanware product.  And - I've stuck to 
that position for almost 10 years. I did understand Humanware's business 
decision, which of itself, made perfect sense.     As things stand - I don't 
plan to buy another VFO product.  My money is worth something, and given the 
abysmal customer relations we are seeing, VFO and I fundamentally disagree on 
how much my customer patronage should be valued.

Although we on this list have these discussions based on an event such as the 
departure of respected virtual friend, staff turnover is natural and healthy.  
Staff turnover is not for me the central point.  My concern is the arrogant 
disregard from Corporate VFO when loyal customers start by asking reasonable 
questions, based on reasonable concerns.

We should probably conclude that the list is not being monitored by senior VFO 
Executives.  I do not expect staff to try and defend the behaviours of the 
senior executive.  I expect Vice Presidents and above to lead accountability to 
their customers.

VFO is a multi-national, multi-million dollar corporate, receiving Government 
contracts in numerous countries.  So: if people can make informed choices 
regarding alternatives to what they currently have, vote with feet, dollars, 
word of mouth advertising and everything else that is available.


Vaughan.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk 
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Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2016 11:04 a.m.
To: Tony Hernandez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Steve Clower

Tell you what - if we're forced to by Shark, I may just forget about Windows 
machines as much as I can.  Being forced into a screenreader and culture I 
don't like is like having our new president-elect take officve.  I like neither 
of them.  Just my thoughts.--Matthew Chao




On 11/22/2016 4:56 PM, Tony Hernandez via Talk wrote:
I wrote an e-mail to [email protected] asking about this. Perhaps if
enough people did the same, they might feel it appropriate to give
some kind of info about this. It's worth a shot. What's the worst they
could do in response?


On 11/22/2016 11:59 AM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:
You know I feel this as well; The thing is that Since Asquared bought
out GWMicro the software has not gotten any better; the tech support
has gotten lax in what they do; and lets face it the main
contributers for the Window eyes screen reader have all but gone.

So Yes I do agree the writing is on the wall for window eyes.



On 11/22/2016 8:20 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
It's also news to me as well.  With several employees leaving AI
Squared, it looks like the writing is on the wall for Window Eyes!

-----Original Message----- From: Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:54 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; kitty hevener
Subject: Re: Steve Clower

:( this is news to me. I must have missed the email announcing he
was leaving. Need anymore proof we is going to be killed off yet?



On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:08 AM kitty hevener via Talk <
[email protected]> wrote:

reg, a few weeks ago, he emailed us to say he was leaving.  I
forgot exactly what his last date was, but perhaps it has happened.

-----Original Message-----
From: Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Steve Clower

After having striven mightily to help me with a Sonar problem, my
last mail to Steve Clower got an automated reply, indicating that
he has left A I Squared.  This was a bit sudden wasn't it?

If you have any support matters pending with Steve, you might want
to make sure that they are still in the works.

--
Reg
<[email protected]>

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