Well Window-Eyes has a JAWS keyboard layout so even if Window-Eyes did become the screen reader by vFO JAWS users could easally transition -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:13 PM To: Kenny Peyatt jr.; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
All the Jaws users would be really upset? On 11/29/2016 10:33 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote: > What would happen, if the window-eyes screenreader becomes the only > screen reader? > > Kenny Peyatt jr. > > > On 11/29/2016 8:43 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Regardless of WE's future, it would be unexpected to receive all the >> services you are used to (from WE) during its transition. >> >> On 11/29/2016 8:39 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote: >>> I completely agree. Also remember how GW used to release public >>> betas that users could try out on their own machines first and >>> report back any problems or suggestions. That way it would make it >>> even more stable on as many systems as they possibly could prior to the official release. >>> >>> Once AI Squared took over there were no more public betas (unless >>> you counted the actual release which were more like betas). I found >>> that each release became less stable and was more like a downgrade >>> instead of an upgrade. >>> Sorry for being so negative, but this has been my experience. >>> >>> On 11/28/2016 8:09 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >>>> There reason, even when they were GW Micro, was they wanted to make >>>> sure the updates were sound, instead of just releasing them before >>>> they were done. I find they have updates more often, and they are >>>> not necessarily as sound, as if they felt they had to start >>>> competing with jaws. Pam. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim via Talk >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:34 PM >>>> To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>>> >>>> Vaughan, I have been using Window-Eyes for years now and I find >>>> with each subsequent release the functionality improves >>>> considerably. I realize that they do not come out with updates as >>>> frequently as a lot of other software manufacturers do, but as far >>>> as I can tell Window-Eyes is still very functional. Can you give >>>> me a specific example of where it is losing its functionality? Just >>>> curious. Catch Ya Later! de >>>> >>>> <KF8LT><Jim>. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27-Nov-16 14:51, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: >>>>> But: Window-eyes is gradually becoming less functional. Clearly - >>>>> a screen reader is useless without interaction with an operating >>>>> system and third party software - but if development of >>>>> window-eyes ceases, the rest of software world still marches on. >>>>> And: there are long standing bugs which now fall into legacy >>>>> problems. And: VFO and the old GW Micro are organisationally very different in character. >>>>> >>>>> AiSquared' CEO is (or was) head of software development within VFO. >>>>> Because AI Squared was starting to bring some momentum back to >>>>> Window-Eyes, and had produced Fusion, I think he is well placed to >>>>> give us some official goss. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vaughan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please telephone the Regional Disability and Health Team prior to >>>>> emailing or faxing any new referrals. >>>>> >>>>> http://doogle.ssi.govt.nz/resources/publications/reports-research/ >>>>> regional/auckland/auckland-health-disability-resources.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:[email protected] >>>>> .com] >>>>> >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2016 3:49 p.m. >>>>> To: [email protected]; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>>> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jim. I totally agree with you. Let's just focus on the >>>>> functionality of Window-Eyes. You are right that all it does is >>>>> create fear, and uncertainty when this topic is discussed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Jim [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:45 PM >>>>> To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi there FOLKS! >>>>> >>>>> I recently enquired about purchasing an SMA for W.E. At this time >>>>> they are still selling them. I don't believe they could or would >>>>> sell something if the product was no longer going to be supported. >>>>> All of this speculation is doing nothing but taking the discussion >>>>> away from where it should be, discussing the actual functionality >>>>> of W.E. So I say lets continue to use the product for as long as >>>>> it's being produced as well as supported and if or when we have to >>>>> cross a bridge of changing screen readers then perhaps we can pick >>>>> up this discussion then..? Catch Ya All Later! de >>>>> >>>>> <KF8LT><Jim>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 26-Nov-16 21:20, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Peter. Speaking of what you said about Window-Eyes being dead, >>>>> I have contacted our local dealer who sells both JAWS and >>>>> Window-Eyes to discuss the situation of what was happening and he >>>>> was shocked, and he told me that he had the head from optolek >>>>> Canada, as Canada does have an optolek branch here, come and visit >>>>> him, and the head told our dealer that they could sell both >>>>> Optolek and Freedom products and that he wouldn't be surprised if AI Squared ended up in the same channel. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>> Of Peter Duran via Talk >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:49 PM >>>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>>> Subject: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> When the founders and main staff of an organization leave, the >>>>> business dies a quick death. 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