Your right about JAWS now that it is under VFO -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:15 PM To: Veronica Smith Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
Because the Shark is a piece of crap. I used it for ten or twelve years before I switched to WE and hated it. I will never go back. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Veronica Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why not use the shark? I've only ever used WE so don't know much about > that fish. Tell me why or why not. V > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:19 AM > To: Tom Kingston; Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > I for one have already been working on getting more familiar with > NVDA, mostly because for the life of me I still cannot get my version > of WE to read documents in Word 2010 despite trying the steps in the > various related articles in the knowledge base and NVDA will read > them. I do hope that WE will continue to be around but I'm preparing > for the worst by trying to learn NVDA. I absolutely will not go back to using the Shark. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Kingston via Talk > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 10:52 PM > To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > Pam, > > User windows are a very powerful feature that are really more or less > scripting in another form. Unfortunately everyone ignored them because > they weren't called scripting. > > You can create standard windows relative to screen coordinates or > floating windows that automatically adjust their coordinates based on > several different things. You can make them speak with a hot key or > make them speak automatically or make them silent. You can tie them to > specific colors, have them watch for highlighting, or not, and on and on. > > Then there are hyperactive windows. These monitor the defined area in > many different ways and can react in many different ways, e.g. say > something, speak a window, execute a hot key, load a set file, and on > and on. > > I remember how everyone was so excited when scripting was introduced. > I only shook my head thinking we had a lot of that power from the > beginning through these windows. It was amazing how some jumped on > scripting while prior to its introduction everyone seemed to scream > and run every time I mentioned user windows. > > You won't even see them in the control panel unless "Show advanced > options" is checked under the Help menu. > > Regards, > Tom > > >> On 11/28/2016 8:51 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >> Okay, at the risk of sounding stupid: what are these user windows >> you are talking about? pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Dave via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:10 PM >> To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >> >> I Miss a big big feature that is no longer in the version 9.X of >> Window eyes. I use those User Windows, in a couple of Set Files I've >> created for a couple of programs I use. Without those User Windows, >> Window Eyes 9.x does not give me the same abilities as Window Eyes >> 8.X This for the way I use Window Eyes is going backwards. >> >> This next one is a personal preference, but the way version 9.X Copies >> Text on the Internet is not to my liking. It is not Windows Standard. >> I find the New way to copy text a bit Funky, and I tend to get more >> text than I want. >> >> >> I dislike other minor issues in Version 9.X, and so it isn't a matter >> of going backwards, but more of a consistency issue. >> >> I suspect the problem I occasionally have is a Script problem, and >> not so much a Window Eyes problem. From time to time, I have major >> problems using Gold Wave 6 in Windows 10. >> >> I no longer have the ability to Read to End when reading Email in Becky. >> >> When in File Explorer, I cannot use the Send To feature because >> either the Script is not reading what Drives I have available, or >> Windows 10 is not displaying the Drives. >> >>> From time to time, the drives are read by Window Eyes, but only one time. >> If I want to send another file, then the Drives no longer are shown, >> or read by Window Eyes 9.5. >> >> This last problem started after downloading the Anniversary Edition >> of Windows 10. >> >> These last three issues are probably Script issues. Either they did >> not load correctly, or once loaded, failed to work properly. But, if >> there is no more development on Window Eyes, it is small stuff like >> this that never will be fixed. And it is little stuff like this that >> will force me to buy JAWS or some other Screen Reader. >> >> I find the operation of the Mouse to be very different in 9.X than I >> did in 8.X. this too has more to do with consistency, because there >> are times I can use the Mouse, but too much of the time, it doesn't >> work or read as well as it did in 8.X. >> >> I also had a Big disappointment, and a Complaint about the Bugginess of >> the 9.0, 9.1,9.2, 9.3 etc. In my opinion, none of these editions were >> quite ready for paying customers. Not until 9.4 and 9.5 did I feel >> that Window Eyes 9 had gotten reliable enough to be sold to the >> general public and to existing Customers. >> >> I could very well be wrong, but I thought the decision to ship 9.0 >> to the Market was a choice made by the drastic need for Money. >> >> This is taking advantage of your Customers, and while a lot of >> Software Companies do this, it doesn't make it Right, or enjoyable >> for those of us who buy upgrades. >> >> If I took more time, I could probably come up with a few more items, >> but I have made my point. >> >> Grumpy Dave >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author > > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterso > n2000% > 40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/madison_ > tewe%4 > 0spinn.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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