It always was, at least since they became Greedom. Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Are there already a lot of things that Window-Eyes doesn't work well with? > Speaking of "the shark", I rather liked Freedom Science Fiction, or Bleed 'Em > Scientific, or one I came up with "Free-dumb" Scientific. > Kim Lingo > > > -----Original Message----- From: Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:21 PM > To: 'Bryan Peterson' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > Your right about JAWS now that it is under VFO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:15 PM > To: Veronica Smith > Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > Because the Shark is a piece of crap. I used it for ten or twelve years > before I switched to WE and hated it. I will never go back. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Veronica Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Why not use the shark? I've only ever used WE so don't know much about >> that fish. Tell me why or why not. V >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:19 AM >> To: Tom Kingston; Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >> >> I for one have already been working on getting more familiar with >> NVDA, mostly because for the life of me I still cannot get my version >> of WE to read documents in Word 2010 despite trying the steps in the >> various related articles in the knowledge base and NVDA will read >> them. I do hope that WE will continue to be around but I'm preparing >> for the worst by trying to learn NVDA. I absolutely will not go back to > using the Shark. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Kingston via Talk >> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 10:52 PM >> To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >> >> Pam, >> >> User windows are a very powerful feature that are really more or less >> scripting in another form. Unfortunately everyone ignored them because >> they weren't called scripting. >> >> You can create standard windows relative to screen coordinates or >> floating windows that automatically adjust their coordinates based on >> several different things. You can make them speak with a hot key or >> make them speak automatically or make them silent. You can tie them to >> specific colors, have them watch for highlighting, or not, and on and on. >> >> Then there are hyperactive windows. These monitor the defined area in >> many different ways and can react in many different ways, e.g. say >> something, speak a window, execute a hot key, load a set file, and on >> and on. >> >> I remember how everyone was so excited when scripting was introduced. >> I only shook my head thinking we had a lot of that power from the >> beginning through these windows. It was amazing how some jumped on >> scripting while prior to its introduction everyone seemed to scream >> and run every time I mentioned user windows. >> >> You won't even see them in the control panel unless "Show advanced >> options" is checked under the Help menu. >> >> Regards, >> Tom >> >> >>> On 11/28/2016 8:51 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >>> Okay, at the risk of sounding stupid: what are these user windows >>> you are talking about? pam. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Dave via Talk >>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:10 PM >>> To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>> >>> I Miss a big big feature that is no longer in the version 9.X of >>> Window eyes. I use those User Windows, in a couple of Set Files I've >>> created for a couple of programs I use. Without those User Windows, >>> Window Eyes 9.x does not give me the same abilities as Window Eyes >>> 8.X This for the way I use Window Eyes is going backwards. >>> >>> This next one is a personal preference, but the way version 9.X Copies >>> Text on the Internet is not to my liking. It is not Windows Standard. >>> I find the New way to copy text a bit Funky, and I tend to get more >>> text than I want. >>> >>> >>> I dislike other minor issues in Version 9.X, and so it isn't a matter >>> of going backwards, but more of a consistency issue. >>> >>> I suspect the problem I occasionally have is a Script problem, and >>> not so much a Window Eyes problem. From time to time, I have major >>> problems using Gold Wave 6 in Windows 10. >>> >>> I no longer have the ability to Read to End when reading Email in Becky. >>> >>> When in File Explorer, I cannot use the Send To feature because >>> either the Script is not reading what Drives I have available, or >>> Windows 10 is not displaying the Drives. >>> >>>> From time to time, the drives are read by Window Eyes, but only one > time. >>> If I want to send another file, then the Drives no longer are shown, >>> or read by Window Eyes 9.5. >>> >>> This last problem started after downloading the Anniversary Edition >>> of Windows 10. >>> >>> These last three issues are probably Script issues. Either they did >>> not load correctly, or once loaded, failed to work properly. But, if >>> there is no more development on Window Eyes, it is small stuff like >>> this that never will be fixed. And it is little stuff like this that >>> will force me to buy JAWS or some other Screen Reader. >>> >>> I find the operation of the Mouse to be very different in 9.X than I >>> did in 8.X. this too has more to do with consistency, because there >>> are times I can use the Mouse, but too much of the time, it doesn't >>> work or read as well as it did in 8.X. >>> >>> I also had a Big disappointment, and a Complaint about the Bugginess of >>> the 9.0, 9.1,9.2, 9.3 etc. In my opinion, none of these editions were >>> quite ready for paying customers. Not until 9.4 and 9.5 did I feel >>> that Window Eyes 9 had gotten reliable enough to be sold to the >>> general public and to existing Customers. >>> >>> I could very well be wrong, but I thought the decision to ship 9.0 >>> to the Market was a choice made by the drastic need for Money. >>> >>> This is taking advantage of your Customers, and while a lot of >>> Software Companies do this, it doesn't make it Right, or enjoyable >>> for those of us who buy upgrades. >>> >>> If I took more time, I could probably come up with a few more items, >>> but I have made my point. >>> >>> Grumpy Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterso >> n2000% >> 40cableone.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/madison_ >> tewe%4 >> 0spinn.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca > . > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/banjopapa03%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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