Hello List,
Jim asked for examples of things that don't work so well these days. I can
think of a few. When looking at the list of files in a folder under "User"
or File Explorer, I used to be able, using Window-Eyes to get the spelling
of the name of a file by holding down the control key and pressing the
number 5 on the numpad twice. It no longer works. I can still do it in
Windows Live Mail but not in my "User" folder or under file explorer in
Windows 8.1. When I enter a folder which is empty or has only one file,
Window-Eyes used to let me know. Not any more. Fortunately, this still works
in Windows Live Mail. User windows in W-E 9 don't work so well either. If
anyone has any explanations or suggestions, I would be very glad to hear
them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim via Talk
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 4:40 AM
To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?
Hi there Dave and Group!
Dave, can you site some examples of what you are talking about -2 steps
forward and 3 back or 3 forward and 2 back? I have been using
Window-Eyes since version 5.1 and every major update has given a great
deal more functionality to the program as well as the user as fara as I
can see. Wonder if you might be able to site a specific example where
things are broke or just don't work as well. Yes, I do have to learn a
few things with these updates but I consider that to be part of using
technology. If I run across something that just doesn't work or at the
least work as advertised I will be the first to scream and jump up and
down and want to know what is wrong. B*ut just because something works
a bit differently doesn't mean that it is broke. I guess I have gone on
long enough on this subject. BTW, I have yet to find any real issues
with W.E. aside from a Thunderbird issue which isn't related to W.E. as
far as I can see since I experience the same issues with NVDA and
Narator. Have A Good 1! de*
*<KF8LE><Jim Wohlgamuth>.*
On 12-Jan-17 11:03, John Farley via Talk wrote:
And do you think that the world of television, domestic appliances,
automobiles etc. are any different.
The VI community are not immune from change.
Regards, John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:30 PM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Going Backward in Accessibility?
Yes, it does seem as if those who sell products to earn a living, cannot
resist the temptation to change it, and changing it sometimes is for the
better, but many times, the changes is one or two steps backwards.
Marketing puts pressure on Development to come up with something NEw NEW
NEW, and so Development does, and Marketing is Happy, but is the end
user always happy?
Most people that use a computer, are not Computer Geeks. They use the
computer, to do their jobs, or to do their household duties, Bill paying
etc.
and when Microsoft, or who ever comes out with their latest offering,
people are forced to re=learn what they had already learned in the
earlier edition of the same software.
I talk with people all over the country, and I do this on my job. And
computers is what we talk about. Time and time again, people have told
me, they do not like Big Big changes. Changes big enough to require
them to look at the latest edition and wonder where they start, because
the new edition is so different.
Now it takes three steps to do what once took two, or even one.
In the case of Screen Readers, now our Readers read even less of the
program than it did before.
this is what I mean by going backwards.
I have no solution, as it seems that Change is the best way to gain
new customers but once these customers are familiar with the program,
any major changes are not welcome, unless those changes streamline the
work the program does for the user.
One Step forward and Two Steps back?
<Smirk> this is not Progress, just in case anyone is confused.
Grumpy Dave
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