It's a valid concern. Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > and the wo-is-me party continues... > > come on guys! instead of being so negative, be happy that we have all this > great stuff. it may not work as well as we like sometimes, but we have it. > > > > >> On 1/14/2017 9:16 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: >> And lets take a look at what Apple did with the current version of Itunes. >> It's not nearly as accessible as it was in version 11. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Dave via Talk >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:58 AM >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> There are all kinds of examples. In Becky, I once had the ability to >> Read to End, and now I no longer have this ability. >> >> Numerous Web Sites that once were reasonably accessible, now require >> more effort on my part to find the same information. >> >> Ebay is a simple example. I once could easily type in the item I was >> looking for and run a search. Now I need to take a few extra steps to >> do the same thing, and then, sometimes, the reading of the search >> results is quite flaky. >> >> This is probably due more to Ebay changing something than Window Eyes >> doing something wrong. But the bottom line is that I now am working >> harder to get where I once could go fairly easily. >> >> The other day, I was on a web site, I was attempting to create an >> account, I could not because some where on that screen I was leaving a >> Field open, and try as I might, I could never find the field, and I >> could not create the account. I'll need to get sighted help to do this >> in the next day or two. >> >> Operating Systems and programs all have multiplied the number of >> features, and a program that once had 50 features, now has 200. My >> screen reader might read many of these new menu choices, and then again, >> it might not. >> >> Oh, I can still use the basic features, but I find that I don't always >> have the ability to go into some of those new areas, and be able to read >> all the selections, choices and options. >> >> This is partly due to multiple factors, and I am not holding Window Eyes >> responsible for the two steps backwards. >> >> Frankly, I would think it is almost impossible for a Screen reading >> company to give 100 per cent access to Windows, or Office, or many other >> programs. >> >> Outside of Screen Readers, I think the Blind are given fewer and fewer >> choices. I bought a brand new Top of the Line Washer and Dryer for my >> Wife. I thought I might be able to continue to help do the wash from >> time to time. The machines had buttons. Well, it turns out, even >> though there are buttons, the user needs to read a screen to select the >> exact cycle wanted for that load of wash. And the dryer isn't any >> easier. It too has a screen and it requires the user to read the screen >> in order to choose the desired dryer setting, time temp etc. >> >> I now need to read from a Braille card, the number of buttons to push >> and in which order, to do a simple load of wash. >> >> There are many Kitchen appliances that require sight to use them >> accurately. >> >> The phone system where I work is almost impossible for me to use. I can >> pick up calls and dial out, but it requires sight to see another one of >> those screens to pick the person you wish to transfer a call. >> >> customer Service Data bases, my Screen reader doesn't read well. Not >> well enough to effectively use it. Same with the Tech Data base. >> >> I may have said that accessibility is taking one step forwards, and two >> back. Perhaps I should have said, that accessibility is not keeping up >> with what accessibility is needed, which ends up meaning the same thing >> for most Blind. We can't use the equipment, or navigate the Web page, >> or create an account, or do some type of editing, because we can't get >> to the feature to use it. >> >> >> I am older, and some my want to say, that I am just an old dude who is >> stuck in the past. >> >> However, what I see, is the typical consumer has a load of Electronic >> equipment, and very very few know much more than the bare basics when it >> comes to using it. Hundreds of features are there, for the few who >> might need to use them. But most features go un used, and yet, the >> manufacturers can say their phone has more features, or our program has >> more choices etc. etc. etc. >> >> >> So, I do believe we the Blind are losing the level of accessibility we >> once had in the past. >> >> Grumpy Dave >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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