To be fair, the disparity between the price of a screen reader and the price of a desk top has everything to do with supply and demand. Fewer consumers are purchasing desk tops. Until most screen reader users replace their screen readers with Iphone-like products, the price of a screen reader will likely not decrease much.
On 3/16/2017 5:35 PM, Evan Reese via Talk wrote: > Hmmm, how about a screenreader company that charges more for their > product than a decent desktop these days? Some people might call that > being "penalized" simply to access their PC, something any sighted > person can do right out of the box. > Evan > > -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 5:02 PM > To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account > > Yes. Somebody said about something: "The only way it's hard is if you > make > it hard". Well, it seems to me that that is quight subjective. He is > speaking from his own experience. Those of us who don't rush to get every > little new thing don't think that way. I don't see why we should be > penalized because we don't want a touch screen or whatever the newest thing > is. Pam. > > -----Original Message----- From: Butch Bussen via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:11 PM > To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Reeva Webb > Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account > > I understand that. And that is great, for you. I just can't deal with > touch screens. Give me buttons to push. As I said in an earlier note, > the same solution isn't for everyone. You guys and your i whatevers > think they solve the world's access problems. Perhaps for some they do. > I can't figure out how to run my IPod. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Russ Kiehne > via Talk wrote: > >> In my case, my ipad mini 4 has taken the place of my victor reader >> stream first generation, Booksense standard and plextalk pocket. It >> has more volume, better battery life and better sound. It does >> everything they do and a lot more. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Reeva Webb via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:54 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Dennis Long >> Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account >> >> You know, this gets me thinking esp. With the conversations I've had >> in the >> past week. We're getting what we wanted for years. We can go into a >> electronics store and buy a iphone, a android phone, a mac, a chromebook >> and soon windows computers with accessibility out of the box. You don't >> have to spend extra money unless you want to. While what is happening >> with >> zt fusion, something I spent my own money to buy makes me mad. I'm >> seriously considering just going fully with mainstream products. I find >> myself using my android devices more and pulling out my laptop less. >> >> >> "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised >> night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho >> >> Reeva >> >> On Mar 16, 2017 1:18 AM, "Dennis Long via Talk" >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I agree with you completely! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:12 PM >> To: Tony C; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account >> >> Problem is you i phone users think everyone can use one and can use a >> touch >> screen. They are not for everyone. I think blind folks fall into that >> worse than any group. if it works for me, it is great for everyone.... >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017, Tony C via Talk wrote: >> >>> I really think that in the very near future "adaptive" technology will >>> become a thing of the past. We aren't there yet, but more and more >>> things are becoming voice activated, and voice commanded. The market >>> for such special items as Window-eyes and Jaws is waining. Heck, the I >>> phone out of the box gives the blind user access to GPS, internet >>> searches, txt messageing, etc, without the need of an expensive piece >>> of software that at best in moderately useable. 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