Hi:

That is true for some of us.  I migrated from JAWS to Window-eyes in
the 1990s and it wasn't so dificult for me, but some people on the
list do need some assistance and there are choices for that.
I wonder if anyone has actually compared Brian's tutorial with Rau's
tutorials and if so, could someone give the list a report on their
findings.
Kevin Huber



On 5/30/17, Dennis Long via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Announcement: Brian Hartgen Training Course, Over Easy:The
> Switch from window-Eyes to JAWS! Being HeldOnline6/1/17 at 2pm Eastern, 7pm
> UK Time
>
>     Hi, Then thing I see is that while there are some differences in WE and
> Jaws, the windows stuff is the same. There are some different keystrokes
> for
> some things, but quite a few are the same. There's really not too much to
> learn other than just remembering some new key combinations. Some of you
> are
> acting like your having to learn some completely new out of this world
> program. If some of you spent as much time learning the new key strokes as
> you do complaining about people selling their help products, you would
> already be and expert. Could we please quit cluttering up the list just to
> bitch about stuff? I'm sure you can find list out there that are devoted to
> whinners.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:43 AM
> To: CJ &AA MAY ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Announcement: Brian Hartgen Training Course,Over Easy:The
> Switch from window-Eyes to JAWS! Being HeldOnline6/1/17 at 2pm Eastern, 7pm
> UK Time
>
> I agree. I think people areacting because they are mad about the fate of
> Window-Eyes, not just the cost of the tutorial. Furthermore, we don't have
> any proof that Mr. Hartgen had anything to do with the demise of
> Window-Eyes. While I am not familiar with his tutorials, I have purchased
> others in the past. I admit, some I have found very helpful and others not
> so much. While I don't intend to purchase one at this time, I think the
> tutorial should be evaluated on its own merits.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CJ &AA MAY via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:40 AM
> To: 'Scott Wheat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Announcement: Brian Hartgen Training Course,Over Easy:The
> Switch from window-Eyes to JAWS! Being Held Online6/1/17 at 2pm Eastern,
> 7pm
> UK Time
>
> I really don't understand people's annoyance at having to purchase a
> tutorial. There is free material already available, which they can use, but
> why shouldn't someone be recompensed for their time and effort in creating
> a
> tutorial. When I purchased my Iphone, I didn't think twice about purchasing
> Anna Dresner's tutorial and it was money really worth spending.
>
> In the past I have used some of Brian Hartgen's tutorials and they were
> always of a high standard.
>
> There is free learning materials available for those who don't want to
> splash out extra money but they really can't expect people to undertake
> such
> a big piece of work and receive no reward.
>
>
>
> Alison
>
>
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