In this case i feel the beter screenreader did not win. Window-eyes is more logical, intuitive, and at least their apps or sets self-extract. At least with Window-eyes if you were a very good computer user you could figure out where stuff went. I also find the we help beter and easier to use. My first contact with Jaws
a number of years ago left me with the same impression I have now, that Jaws would have been beter served to stick with standard windows keys like alt f 4 to unload jaws rather than inventing another keystroke to do same. Sory for ranting, it is what it is. I'll figure out how to install setfiles and when we stops working I'll use Jaws or something else. vfo maybe be different but its a challenge to set aside the attitudes of the previous Jaws license holders. Thanks for reading. I'm done.Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Absolutely agree.--Matthew Chao > > > >>> On 6/10/2017 3:36 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote: >>> You got that right! Like they say, it's hard to teach an old dog new >>> tricks. Smiles from another old buzzard! >>> On 6/10/2017 12:25 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: >>> When I learned Window Eyes, I had been a sighted user of Windows and the >>> keyboard commands were more logical than JAWS. Now I am older and it's >>> harder to remember all the new commands in JAWS. It seems to take more >>> commands in JAWS than Window Eyes to do the same thing. I have installed >>> JAWS and am trying it gradually to get use to it, but will still use WE as >>> long as it works. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Dennis Long via Talk >>> To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:41 PM >>> Subject: RE: Reciprocal Idea >>> >>> >>> Why it's true people need to realize that. You had to learn new keyboard >>> commands when you bought window eyes. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk >>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:12 PM >>> To: Neville; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Reciprocal Idea >>> >>> You really didn't need to send this message. Pam. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Neville via Talk >>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:34 PM >>> To: Matthew Chao via Talk >>> Subject: Re: Reciprocal Idea >>> >>> Hi, >>> Window-eyes is dead so just get on with life and learn Jaws or NVDA. >>> >>> Neville >>> >>> >>> On 9/06/2017 10:22 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote: >>> > Hi, Folks. Remember how Window-Eyes had a special keyboard layout for >>> > JAWS defectors? Why couldn't the folks at VFO do the same for us? >>> > Besides, we had to go to JAWS somewhat kicking and screaming; it >>> > wasn't our choice. So, how about it, folks? 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