I'll probably prefer WE as well, but if everything you say is correct, 
then everyone else would agree with you.  I know Jaws users who swear by 
it.  WE may not be more intuitive, it may simply suit your wants and 
needs better.

On 6/10/2017 5:37 PM, Charles Adkins via Talk wrote:
> In this case i feel the beter screenreader did not win. Window-eyes is more 
> logical, intuitive, and at least their apps or sets self-extract. At least 
> with Window-eyes if you were a very good computer user you could figure out 
> where stuff went. I also find the we help beter and easier to use. My first 
> contact with Jaws
> 
>   a number of years ago left me with the same impression I have now, that 
> Jaws would have been beter served to stick with standard windows keys like 
> alt f 4 to unload jaws rather than inventing another keystroke to do same. 
> Sory for ranting, it is what it is. I'll figure out how to install setfiles 
> and when we stops working I'll use Jaws or something else. vfo maybe be 
> different but its a challenge to set aside the attitudes of the previous Jaws 
> license holders. Thanks for reading. I'm done.Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely agree.--Matthew Chao
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On 6/10/2017 3:36 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
>>>> You got that right! Like they say, it's hard to teach an old dog new 
>>>> tricks. Smiles from another old buzzard!
>>>> On 6/10/2017 12:25 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
>>>> When I learned Window Eyes, I had been a sighted user of Windows and the 
>>>> keyboard commands were more logical than JAWS.  Now I am older and it's 
>>>> harder to remember all the new commands in JAWS.  It seems to take more 
>>>> commands in JAWS than Window Eyes to do the same thing. I have installed 
>>>> JAWS and am trying it gradually to get use to it, but will still use WE as 
>>>> long as it works.
>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>    From: Dennis Long via Talk
>>>>    To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>>>>    Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:41 PM
>>>>    Subject: RE: Reciprocal Idea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Why it's true people need to realize that.  You had to learn  new 
>>>> keyboard
>>>>    commands when you bought window eyes.
>>>>
>>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>>    From: Talk 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>    On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
>>>>    Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:12 PM
>>>>    To: Neville; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>>>    Subject: Re: Reciprocal Idea
>>>>
>>>>    You really didn't need to send this message.  Pam.
>>>>
>>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>>    From: Neville via Talk
>>>>    Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:34 PM
>>>>    To: Matthew Chao via Talk
>>>>    Subject: Re: Reciprocal Idea
>>>>
>>>>    Hi,
>>>>    Window-eyes is dead so just get on with life and learn Jaws or NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>    Neville
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    On 9/06/2017 10:22 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
>>>>    > Hi, Folks.  Remember how Window-Eyes had a special keyboard layout for
>>>>    > JAWS defectors?  Why couldn't the folks at VFO do the same for us?
>>>>    > Besides, we had to go to JAWS somewhat kicking and screaming; it
>>>>    > wasn't our choice.  So, how about it, folks?  What do you
>>>>    > think?--Matthew Chao
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