BTW a potential tweak to the wording (caveat: not discussed with anybody) that would perhaps make the multiple data sources scenario work a bit better is to change the current
/If OpenStreetMap data accounts for a minority (less than 50%) part of the visible map rendering, attribution with other sources on a separate page that is visible after user interaction is acceptable. / // to // /If OpenStreetMap is not the largest data provider for the visible map rendering, attribution with other sources on a separate page that is visible after user interaction is acceptable./ Which would require on map attribution not only for the 50% and more case, but also for any case in which the majority of the visible data is from OSM. It does break down a bit when there are numerous small data sources of very similar size. Naturally one can argue about what "largest" means in the context which however applies to the suggested 50% rule too. Simon Am 08.09.2019 um 16:38 schrieb Simon Poole: > > I don't quite follow your argument here. According to the draft > guideline if a majority of the data displayed is derived from OSM, > then attribution needs to be displayed on map. So assuming that the > prerequisite is met, as you are saying, the draft guideline would > require exactly what you want. > > The -other- problem with the site is that it is implying a partnership > which doesn't exist. Something which we clearly don't want for > commercial law and liability reasons, given the wording of the ODbL I > doubt that we can base such a requirement on the licence (but likely > on use of our trademarks). > > Simon > > Am 08.09.2019 um 12:11 schrieb Nuno Caldeira: >> >> Here's another example of why we should not adopt the multiple >> sources attribution omission of our attribution. They list us as >> partners (?) >> https://www.wrld3d.com/3d-maps/custom-maps >> Use multiple sources and are not complying with ODbL by not showing >> the license. >> Seen multiple maps by their clients and they show data "copyright l.map" >> >> I have confirmed with multiple contributors that largely the data >> used is OSM and it's around a year old dump of the planet. >> >> Simon Poole <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu em sex, >> 9/08/2019 às 08:45 : >> >> As we've mentioned multiple times over the last months, the LWG >> decided >> last year to consolidate all attribution guidance in to one >> document and >> address some of the use cases that have become common over the last 7 >> years that previously had none. Particularly in the light of the >> parallel discussions about attribution on larger social media >> platforms >> we need to make up our minds what we actually want, and define >> concrete >> minimum requirements for acceptable attribution. To not do this just >> provides the excuse of pointing to the cacophony of voices all saying >> something different. >> >> We've been working on and off on the document for a while, and >> are now >> largely finished. Going forward we intend to wikify the document and >> make it available for public comment together with a BoF session >> at SotM >> next month (which probably means that we'll have to appropriate a >> coffee >> break). You can have a glimpse at the text here >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e_IQYHtqVivGRw4O4EOn6__-LGMuzPlWz6XKEdAkwW0/edit?usp=sharing >> the few things that are not nailed down belong to those that we would >> appreciate feedback on. >> >> Simon >> >> PS: the number of coffee breaks permitting we might want to >> appropriate >> another one for the discussion of a tile licence change. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> osmf-talk mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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