W dniu 20-02-25 o 18:43, Mateusz Konieczny via talk pisze: > Yes, and for pragmatic reasons we use English. > > We are not using Esperanto, because unlike > English nearly noone is capable of communicating in it. > > We are using English here primarily because > OSM was started in England, > and there was no good reason to change > language of this mailing list. OSM komenciĝis en Anglujo, sed iĝis la mapo de la tuta mondo. Preskaŭ neniu povas finlerni la anglan lingvon kontraŭe al Esperanto, preskaŭ neniu povas kompreni ĝian nelogikan elparolon, plurpartajn verbojn, ĝian malprecizon. OSM started in England, but became the map of the entire world. Almost no one can learn English as opposed to Esperanto, almost no one can understand its illogical pronunciation, multi-part verbs, its vagueness.
W dniu 20-02-25 o 18:28, Hartmut Holzgraefe pisze: > > > EN Is there any major international list to discuss? > > Why don't you go to the "Talk-GB" or "Talk-us" list to discuss in > English? > > Because these are more for topics local to those countries. Do tiu ĉi listo ankaŭ estas loka listo por anglalingvanoj, ĉu ekzistas internacia listo por pridiskuti OSM-rilatajn aferojn? So this list is also a local list for English speakers, is there an international list to discuss OSM related issues? W dniu 20-02-25 o 18:28, Hartmut Holzgraefe pisze: > It's just what has been proven to work "least bad". Does that give > some an unfair advantage? For sure. But would raising the bar for > everyone by demanding "You have to learn this language, that you > almost for certain have not learned before, to even start to > participate" be "less bad"? I'm far from convinced ... Ĝi funkcias senespere, infanoj lernas ĝin por kelkaj jaroj kaj ne povas lerte ĝin uzi. Eblas samtempe uzi du lingvojn: primitivan anglan kaj justan Esperanton, post kelkaj monatoj/jaroj homoj certe elektu la Esperanton. It works out of desperation, kids learn it for a few years and can't use it. It is possible to use two languages at once: primitive English and just Esperanto, after a few months / years people should definitely choose Esperanto. W dniu 20-02-25 o 18:28, Hartmut Holzgraefe pisze: > PS: given the choice, I'd probably rather learn Klingon than Esperanto, > that might give me better chances to find someone I could talk to in > that language after all I assume, esp. in the tech/geek sector ... Viaj personaj elektoj ne interesiĝas min. Ĉu mi altrudas al aliaj homoj lerni la polan? Ĉesu altrudi al mi lerni la anglan. I'm not interested in your personal choices. Do I force other people to learn Polish? Stop making me learn English.
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