hi

May i know why N86  become your choice Dave.
Thanks


On 9/12/10, Stephen Giggar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave
>
> You went from a 1st Edition phone 6600 to a 3rd Edition phone N86. There is
> no compareson between the two. The 1st Edition phones whir good for there
> time and I wouldn't expect them to work with later things on the market
> including PC Suite. The old 1st Edition phones used PC Suite 1.x or
> something like that! <smile> The best thing I liked about the old 1st
> Edition phones is you could install Software on the phone and do it all
> through the PC without having to touch the phone.
>
> The N86 you have to do it on the phone to finish the install. The good thing
> about this is no one can install software remotely on your phone without you
> knowing about it being you have to do it on the phone.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
>
>
>> Very helpful background elenore,
>> You are right that I  am a relative new comer to Talks  and my knowledge
>> in
>> this area is very limited compared to other areas of technology.
>> This was mainly due to the problems of connectivity I had with my old
>> Nokia
>> 6600.
>> This phone only had basic file transfer possible via blue tooth and it
>> proved impossible to sync or connect with PC suite.
>> I even employed a computer engineer for 2 hours but he was completely
>> stumped by this phone. He demonstrated how it was possible to connect and
>> sync a number of other phones but not this 6600.   it appeared from Google
>> searches that this was a known  problem and you needed an old service pack
>>
>> 1
>> XP machine to really connect the 6600 without problem.
>> I responded by using the phone with a very limited feature set.
>>
>> So I am only now with my new N86 moving into a more general usage of talks
>> and a phone.
>> The 6600 is going to my sister who does not need a expanded feature set.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David Griffith
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:15
>> To: Talks Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
>>
>> Oh well David that is unfortunate and I hate being caught out myself after
>> the event.  Now you are a new comer to Talks which surprises me a little
>> as
>> I have benefited from very valuable information from you on other lists so
>> surprised that you are only now coming to Talks screen reader.  Now I've
>> been using Talks for about 2 years and have been following when new
>> releases/updates occur.  You would have known from Talks 4 about Quick
>> Office and we were all pleased that Talks was  then making the reading of
>> Word documents available at least!!!  At that time it was said in the
>> release notes that Talks would not read from within the Quick Office or
>> maybe I stand corrected but I knew it was something I was aware of at that
>> time.  Then there was the untimely death of one of the Talks developers
>> back
>>
>> last Easter or May time, I think it was April.  A very sad loss to the
>> Talks
>>
>> community but the good work has continued thankfully.  May I suggest that
>> you consider Ped or Bread for your text files.
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for this information Elenore.
>>> I am a bit annoyed with Nuance.
>>>
>>> I think the following statement on the Nuance talks page is misleading.
>>> Especially as it was after reading this text that I decided to purchase
>>> Quick Office.
>>> Beginning of quote
>>>
>>> NEW! TALKS&ZOOMS now support reading and even editing word documents, for
>>> instance, e-mail attachments, in Quick Word. QuickWord is a part of
>>> QuickOffice, and its view-only version is pre-installed on most handsets,
>>> while the version that allows to edit text is pre-installed on the Nokia
>>> E-Series handsets, or can be purchased otherwise.
>>> End of quote
>>> There is no warning anywhere that Talks will only partly support the
>>> reading
>>> of menus in quick Office and will fail to allow file navigation within
>>> quick
>>> office. If for example you are trying to achieve the reading of a text
>>> file
>>> in quick office this seems impossible with talks present support.
>>>
>>> I think this is a misleading advert and I will raise this in the first
>>> place
>>> with sight and sound who sold the talks software  to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> David Griffith
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:02
>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
>>>
>>> Well David you are partly there.  No Talks will not access your files
>>> using
>>> speech via Quick Office.  Put the files in a folder on the Mass Memory
>>> and
>>> then go to them there and open them from there.  For example.  I have a
>>> folder called Law and in that folder I have my notes which I transferred
>>> from the computer which are written in Word.  I then go to that folder
>>> via
>>> file manager and locate a file and open it.  Do remember that you have
>>> then
>>> to go to options and edit in order to read through the document.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:13 PM
>>> Subject: [Talks] Quick Office
>>>
>>>
>>>> Having failed in an attempt to successfully install, or use, 4 text
>>>> editors
>>>> including T Edit and B edit I today purchased Quick Office
>>>>
>>>> This installed fine but I am experiencing major difficulties in opening
>>>> files.
>>>>
>>>> If I select options open I can navigate down to the phone's mass memory
>>>> but
>>>> from there on talks does not read any file paths.
>>>> By experimenting I find that by pushing right Talks will announce AD
>>>> Films
>>>> which is the first folder on the phone's mass memory . However I cannot
>>>> get
>>>> Talks to announce the other folders as I move down.
>>>> Continuing to push right will simply launch one of the films in this
>>>> folder
>>>> without announcing the name of the file.
>>>>
>>>> Leaving quick office and Using file manager , I can navigate fine to the
>>>> text files I need to open.  The problem is that opening them here does
>>>> not
>>>> open then into quick office.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way of making quick office accessible with Talks or is there
>>>> a
>>>> way of forcing file Manager to open txt files in Quick Office?
>>>> I tried a utility called file Associate but again it was not compatible
>>>> with
>>>> the N86.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> David Griffith
>>>>
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