any idea what kind of price is it now? Im asking all this because i myself an thinking of upgrading my N82, not sure how soon though.
On 9/12/10, hannah day <[email protected]> wrote: > YES YOUR RIGHT THE N 86 IS a slide phone > > cha soon hannah > > > Hannah Day > E-mail and facebook: [email protected] > MSN: [email protected] > Skype: hannahday > > On 12/09/2010 14:46, Sabaruddin Isa wrote: >> unlike 6600, N86 is a slider phone i guess. So how are you >> familiarizing with the phone Dave? >> >> On 9/12/10, David Griffith<[email protected]> wrote: >>> Basically I saw quite a lot of discussion on other lists about which was >>> the >>> best phone to buy for someone with visual impairment, and there were a >>> lot >>> of people recommending the N86. >>> I then checked general reviews of the N86 on Google, and the results were >>> pretty positive as well. One review, for example, claimed that it was the >>> best phone if you were not to go down the touch screen smart phone >>> route. >>> So far I have been very happy with the phone apart from the access >>> barriers >>> which I think would appear on any >>> Regards >>> >>> David Griffith. >>> >>> phone. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David Griffith >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Sabaruddin Isa >>> Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2010 05:18 >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] 6600/N86 was Re: Quick Office >>> >>> hi >>> >>> May i know why N86 become your choice Dave. >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> On 9/12/10, Stephen Giggar<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> You went from a 1st Edition phone 6600 to a 3rd Edition phone N86. There >>> is >>>> no compareson between the two. The 1st Edition phones whir good for >>>> there >>>> time and I wouldn't expect them to work with later things on the market >>>> including PC Suite. The old 1st Edition phones used PC Suite 1.x or >>>> something like that!<smile> The best thing I liked about the old 1st >>>> Edition phones is you could install Software on the phone and do it all >>>> through the PC without having to touch the phone. >>>> >>>> The N86 you have to do it on the phone to finish the install. The good >>> thing >>>> about this is no one can install software remotely on your phone without >>> you >>>> knowing about it being you have to do it on the phone. >>>> >>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar >>>> Skype: dr-phone. >>>> >>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. >>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "David Griffith"<[email protected]> >>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'"<[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:48 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>>> >>>> >>>>> Very helpful background elenore, >>>>> You are right that I am a relative new comer to Talks and my >>>>> knowledge >>>>> in >>>>> this area is very limited compared to other areas of technology. >>>>> This was mainly due to the problems of connectivity I had with my old >>>>> Nokia >>>>> 6600. >>>>> This phone only had basic file transfer possible via blue tooth and it >>>>> proved impossible to sync or connect with PC suite. >>>>> I even employed a computer engineer for 2 hours but he was completely >>>>> stumped by this phone. He demonstrated how it was possible to connect >>>>> and >>>>> sync a number of other phones but not this 6600. it appeared from >>> Google >>>>> searches that this was a known problem and you needed an old service >>> pack >>>>> >>>>> 1 >>>>> XP machine to really connect the 6600 without problem. >>>>> I responded by using the phone with a very limited feature set. >>>>> >>>>> So I am only now with my new N86 moving into a more general usage of >>> talks >>>>> and a phone. >>>>> The 6600 is going to my sister who does not need a expanded feature >>>>> set. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>>>> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:15 >>>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>>>> >>>>> Oh well David that is unfortunate and I hate being caught out myself >>> after >>>>> the event. Now you are a new comer to Talks which surprises me a >>>>> little >>>>> as >>>>> I have benefited from very valuable information from you on other lists >>> so >>>>> surprised that you are only now coming to Talks screen reader. Now >>>>> I've >>>>> been using Talks for about 2 years and have been following when new >>>>> releases/updates occur. You would have known from Talks 4 about Quick >>>>> Office and we were all pleased that Talks was then making the reading >>>>> of >>>>> Word documents available at least!!! At that time it was said in the >>>>> release notes that Talks would not read from within the Quick Office or >>>>> maybe I stand corrected but I knew it was something I was aware of at >>> that >>>>> time. Then there was the untimely death of one of the Talks developers >>>>> back >>>>> >>>>> last Easter or May time, I think it was April. A very sad loss to the >>>>> Talks >>>>> >>>>> community but the good work has continued thankfully. May I suggest >>>>> that >>>>> you consider Ped or Bread for your text files. >>>>> >>>>> Eleanor >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "David Griffith"<[email protected]> >>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'"<[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:46 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for this information Elenore. >>>>>> I am a bit annoyed with Nuance. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the following statement on the Nuance talks page is >>>>>> misleading. >>>>>> Especially as it was after reading this text that I decided to >>>>>> purchase >>>>>> Quick Office. >>>>>> Beginning of quote >>>>>> >>>>>> NEW! TALKS&ZOOMS now support reading and even editing word documents, >>> for >>>>>> instance, e-mail attachments, in Quick Word. QuickWord is a part of >>>>>> QuickOffice, and its view-only version is pre-installed on most >>> handsets, >>>>>> while the version that allows to edit text is pre-installed on the >>>>>> Nokia >>>>>> E-Series handsets, or can be purchased otherwise. >>>>>> End of quote >>>>>> There is no warning anywhere that Talks will only partly support the >>>>>> reading >>>>>> of menus in quick Office and will fail to allow file navigation within >>>>>> quick >>>>>> office. If for example you are trying to achieve the reading of a text >>>>>> file >>>>>> in quick office this seems impossible with talks present support. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this is a misleading advert and I will raise this in the first >>>>>> place >>>>>> with sight and sound who sold the talks software to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:02 >>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>>>>> >>>>>> Well David you are partly there. No Talks will not access your files >>>>>> using >>>>>> speech via Quick Office. Put the files in a folder on the Mass Memory >>>>>> and >>>>>> then go to them there and open them from there. For example. I have >>>>>> a >>>>>> folder called Law and in that folder I have my notes which I >>>>>> transferred >>>>>> from the computer which are written in Word. I then go to that folder >>>>>> via >>>>>> file manager and locate a file and open it. Do remember that you have >>>>>> then >>>>>> to go to options and edit in order to read through the document. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "David Griffith"<[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'"<[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:13 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Talks] Quick Office >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Having failed in an attempt to successfully install, or use, 4 text >>>>>>> editors >>>>>>> including T Edit and B edit I today purchased Quick Office >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This installed fine but I am experiencing major difficulties in >>>>>>> opening >>>>>>> files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I select options open I can navigate down to the phone's mass >>>>>>> memory >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> from there on talks does not read any file paths. >>>>>>> By experimenting I find that by pushing right Talks will announce AD >>>>>>> Films >>>>>>> which is the first folder on the phone's mass memory . However I >>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> Talks to announce the other folders as I move down. >>>>>>> Continuing to push right will simply launch one of the films in this >>>>>>> folder >>>>>>> without announcing the name of the file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leaving quick office and Using file manager , I can navigate fine to >>> the >>>>>>> text files I need to open. The problem is that opening them here >>>>>>> does >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> open then into quick office. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way of making quick office accessible with Talks or is >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> way of forcing file Manager to open txt files in Quick Office? >>>>>>> I tried a utility called file Associate but again it was not >>>>>>> compatible >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the N86. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>>>>> signature >>>>>>> database 5441 (20100910) __________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Talks mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>>>>> eHosting Limited: 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