Bernard,
I was able to use my WiFi connection to download the radio station list in
the FM Radio on the N86.
I do understand what you are saying, but it's just a configuration thing,
no
biggie surely...
even if you have 10 applications installed on your phone which do not use
the default settings under the connection, we're talking 10 changes and
you're off.
when launching the web on the N86 I have my phone set to always ask about
connection.
by default it is set to internet, so then this takes the choice of
priority
from the connection settings in Tools.
it shows me a choice, connect using... internet WiFi, then I can arrow
down
to internet O2 who is my carrier.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: 12 September 2010 13:00
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem with Telstra access points
yes but even if you change the default connection to your home land Neil
this does not carry through to all programs. In fact even if you have the
default connection set to wlan and the web browser is still set to telstra
internet it will use the telstra setting unless you go in to web settings
and change it. Real player will do the same. You see when telstra sends
it's config settings when you save them it makes telstra your default
connection for most if not all apps so as well as setting this in settings
connections it also saves this in just about every application. Where
this
is not true is in the fm radio but as you can only use your carrier to
download the station directory it does not matter because when you run it
for the first time that is your only option.
I know about default connections and priority but if each program is set
to
use a given access point then that setting over rides what ever default
connection you may set in settings connections.
Before I ever raised this on the list I tried everything I could think of
to
solve the issues.
Bernard Hemmings
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <[email protected]>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem with Telstra access points
Bernard,
you are able to change the priority of internet connections, i.e. create
your WLAN WiFi connection, this should end up in the Internet category,
now
simply press the options key, there's an option here to move the item up
and
down the list so that the WLAN option has a higher priority.
Now I'm thinking that there's nothing wrong with your phone and that it
is
simply that you are not understanding what it is telling you.
My Nokia N86 also has these categories, with the network carriers options
in
there too. I just add my WLAN and amend the priority setting.
thanks.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: 12 September 2010 12:05
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.
Stephen another point that to me the more I think about it is suspicious
is
that telstra create 4 destinations the first of which is called internet
containing one access point the second multi media msg also containing
one
access point the third is wap services also containing an access point
almost a copy of the first and the last is called internet which has no
access points. As you can't delete this most people will use it for
their
wlan access point.
Now in a number of programs when you wish to select the access point only
the destination name is mentioned while other programs do mention the
access
point.
So if you are not very careful when selecting between the 2 internets you
could very easily use the wrong one especially if you had both access
points
set to use automatically. The only reason I know which one is by
listening
to talks saying in what position the one I want is in the list so the
telstra internet access point may be 2 of 6 where as the internet
destination containing my wlan access point will be 6 of 6.
I have talks list view set to speak one if you had it on never you simply
would not know which one was which. So other telstra users with a
different
talks setting could be using the telstra access point and never know
till
their bill arrives.
Had they called it something like WLAN internet that would be different.
Now adding the fact their seems to be a problem with wireless lan web
access and you were using one of the apps that just give the destination
name when selecting access point it does make you think
I tried exactly what you suggested below with this handset as I did not
want
to accidentally save the protected destinations that arrive in a text
message from telstra. as soon as I had talks installed I went to the
destinations but the telstra settings were already present. On my first
e72
that is when I purchased it there were no access points defined and when
I
save them all was fine but after formatting the phone it would no longer
access the web via WLAN.
Bernard Hemmings
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Giggar" <[email protected]>
To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.
Bernard
Just a thought! If you get a new handset or you try a format! Leave the
Sim card out in either case. This away when the phone comes up initially
after the format with no sim in it or it is a brand new phone with no
sim
in it. Then install Talks with no Sim in it. Then try setting up your
WiFi
access point and see if it works with no Sim ever being in the phone.
This
away it is hoped that there will be no access point in the phone at all
when starting out.
If this works with Talks with no sim ever being in the phone! Then put
the
sim in the phone and power it up. When you get the messages from telstra
Cancel out of them with SoftKey2, do not accept them. Then go into your
inbox on the phone and delete the messages! Do not open them.
Now try again with using your access point with Talks and see what
happens.
Good luck!
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.
Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernard Hemmings" <[email protected]>
To: "talks" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:13 AM
Subject: [Talks] a major problem.
Well lists after nokia replaced the wifi chip in my e72 it still would
not connect to the web via wireless networks there networks as well as
mine. they gave me a replacement handset but unfortunately not a new
one
but a phone that was owned before by another telstra user. Guess what
it
has the same problem.
You see telstra send 4 destinations containing 3 access points.
interestingly 2 of the destinations have the same name
"internet"
These protected destinations can not be removed not even by a hard
reset.
I believe either the two destinations having the same name or the fact
they can not be deleted cause the format process to abort when the data
can't be deleted. After all formats never go round a problem unless a
skip process is built in. with my old e72 if the wlan wizard was open
it would connect to sites addresses but this would not permit built in
apps that access their own servers to work.
With this handset I tried the way they used but still no go the invalid
server name keeps coming up. The status bar indicates it's connected
to
the router and the lan works perfectly when I use the telexy software
or
the home media feature.
I think Nokia this week when I go back to the service centre will have
a
go at blaming talks. The handsets they tried last week would connect
to
the web via wifi networks and they will point out that talks was not
installed. The telstra protected destinations were on this handset
when
I got it there was no sticker on the screen and it did not have that
new
mobile phone smell they all have when you take them from their box. If
you try and alter these protected destinations the error unable to edit
protected settings comes up. you can open the destinations and delete
the access points. The nokia techs told me they can't delete the
destinations either which I find a little difficult to believe, but if
this is the case then it's no wonder the format or hard reset does not
complete. As other e72 owners are using the lates firmware with out
this problem that is obviously not the cause. If you format the
handset
with these telstra destinations in place you get a beep after 20
seconds
or so and the next time you power up the phone I think it has another
go
at formatting because you don't hear the power up music and 30 seconds
after reboot you hear a beep. My replacement handset did this the
first
time I powered it up.
I don't know if other providers lock their destination in this way.
However it looks as if I may have discovered a problem in that
handsets
running the same symian version as the e72 and their owners use telstra
if a hard reset is performed the phone will not be able to use the
internet via their wireless networks. Keep in mind nokia techs tried
to
use the net on 3 different WLANS with my e72 and they got the same
error
as I do at home.
I've tried both factory reset and hard reset which won't make the
problem
go away. As I am sick of visiting the nokia service centre I'm hoping
someone on the list who know more about phone than I do can suggest
something. Hopefully I am wrong re the telstra protected destinations.
Currently every web address I enter including
http://www.blindsea.com
returns the error invalid server name. When using the carrier's access
point it works perfectly.
Now a more synical person than myself would say it's Telstra trying to
make users use their data services, I'm not claiming this yet but I do
wonder how many others have run in to the problem but are to busy to
spend days at their local nokia service centre and just use telstra's
data services and keep their usage to a minimum. all I have done is
install talks and set up my access point. No other software has been
installed on this replacement handset.
Bernard Hemmings
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