Hi to all,

Do you think that we have had enough about wifi and router discussion in this 
Talks list?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bernard Hemmings 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifionphonesversesrouters.


the 2 free public wifi networks at the airport are open networks and it 
would not work with those.  If my local pc shop can't get it working on 
their network I will get them to write a letter to nokia to that effect.
The owner of the store does know about networking.  In all my years of 
owning mobile phones I've never encountered such a problem before.  The 
interesting thing is the lan works perfectly with the telexy software I can 
copy remove delete or listen to files  across the lan.
Bernard Hemmings
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Malcolm Parfitt" <[email protected]>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifi 
onphonesversesrouters.


>I am not advocating using an open network but as a temporary measure as a
> test.
>
> Also, if you use the ip address of a site rather than its url does that
> work, may be a dns lookup issue?
>
> Can you access your router's management page from your phone?
>
> Just a couple of suggestions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On
> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
> Sent: 15 September 2010 12:11
> To: Talks Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifi on
> phonesversesrouters.
>
> I have tired the automatic ip address option or dhcp and the only 
> difference
> was the error invalid server name came up in 2 seconds instead of ten
> seconds.  The phone access point was using wep for as I told the branch
> manager running an open wireless network is not an option more should it
> have to be.  I will try the laptop type connection when I get the phone 
> back
> on the air.  I decided to format the phone because apart from the network
> problem.  When I opened the talks window often the e72 would beep but no
> error message was spoken.  I've never heard that before but figured the
> install must have gone a bit strange.
>
> Bernard Hemmings
> email: [email protected]
> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
> Ftp server email: [email protected]
> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
> Home: 61-02-95841280
> Mobile: 61-0412177799
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Malcolm Parfitt" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifi on phones
> versesrouters.
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A couple of suggestions.
>>
>> Firstly are you saying that your phone connected to another phone
>> running as an access point?
>>
>> Try temporarily disabling security on your wireless network, can you
>> connect now?
>>
>> I have my wireless channel set to auto and I don't have any problems.
>>
>> Try using your phone as a dhcp client, is your phone listed  in the
>> router's list of devices?
>>
>> Can you establish an add hock link between your phone and your laptop?
>>
>> What router are you using?  Is there updated firmware for it?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
>> Sent: 15 September 2010 11:16
>> To: talks
>> Subject: [Talks] technical differences between wifi on phones verses
>> routers.
>>
>> Stephen or any other persons with technical knowledge on the list.
>> When I took my e72 back to nokia today instead of using a normal LAN
>> they used a phone running either walking hotspot or the other similar
>> package to show me their is no problem.  the branch manager lames
>> there is no difference between hotspots.  The problem is it still
>> won't connect  to web addresses via a LAN but seemed to work perfectly
>> when a phone is used as a hotspot.  as they used an automatic ip
>> address I tried that when I got home but still no joy yet my laptop
>> works perfectly via the same wireless network.  I tried 2 different
>> wifi networks on the weekend which would not work as well as 2 public
>> free wifi hotspots at Sydney airport one servicing the domestic
>> terminal and the second the international terminal.
>> These did not work either.  I've since removed the sim card and
>> formatted the phone a few times.  When I heard it work using the phone
>> hotspot  I was very pleased thinking the problem had gone away but no
>> so now I am at a loss.  I am going to go to my local pc shop tomorrow
>> I will ask the guy there to see if he can connect the phone to his
>> network after he sets the date and time on the phone.  If my laptop
>> did not work on my wlan then my LAN would be at fault.  The nlkia
>> branch manager told me to change the channel on the router as it might
>> help but as the phone and router talk to each other I'm sure that's
>> not the issue but I did try it with no effect.
>> the only difference I know of between phone hotspots and routers is
>> one uses addhock while the other uses public.  perhaps the latest e72
>> software uses a different default setting in that field and it has to
>> be changed.  Another thing I plan on doing if I can find someone with
>> an optus sim who will let me borrow it for a few seconds then
>> hopefully the protected telstra destinations may be removed.
>> The branch manager refused to use a router based LAN saying their is
>> no difference between a phone hotspot and a LAN.
>>
>> Bernard Hemmings
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>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
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>> livingaudio.bhemmings.net
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