Hi Bernard,

To be honest, I have seen so many many many posting from you about WIFI and 
router.  Even in phones which others have no problem when they using the same 
model.

Furthermore, at times, this is discussed on locked phones and not related to 
many all over the world.

I have had so many friends using E72 and N86 and they have no such issues.  
Perhaps, it could arise cause you made things to complicated yourself, from the 
phone as well as router setting.

To make it worst, the whole thread, seems like a swing, just swing left, right 
left right left right left right and no ends. Suggestions after suggestions and 
it goes on and on.  Just like a child counting from 1 to ten but cannot count 
it continuously and make it right.  Start with 1, then Skipping and reach 10, 
leave out some numbers, so go back and try again and again.

All the best! and I hope you will solve it in good time man.  If it's me, I 
will bring to Nokia and demand them to solve it, nothing less then that. Then I 
will come back to this group and share that it has been solved. Only then will 
I give the tips how to do it.

It's sure right, a phone with wifi but cannot be used is considered faulty.

Again, all the best.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bernard Hemmings 
To: Talks Mailing List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifionphonesversesrouters.


If you were having the same problems I'm certain you would think 
differently.  One day you might so you may want to remember some of the 
points as I never thought I would need help with an issue like this.  With 
out net access via wlan it makes the phone either very expensive or next to 
useless as you can't use skype or email or even the software updater.  it 
cuts it down to a phone, address book and Calender .
When I raise an issue I'm not only seeking to solve my own problem but also 
aiming to help others who might find they have a similar problem in the 
future.
Bernard Hemmings
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kit" <[email protected]>
To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between 
wifionphonesversesrouters.


> Hi to all,
>
> Do you think that we have had enough about wifi and router discussion in 
> this Talks list?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bernard Hemmings
> To: Talks Mailing List
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between 
> wifionphonesversesrouters.
>
>
> the 2 free public wifi networks at the airport are open networks and it
> would not work with those.  If my local pc shop can't get it working on
> their network I will get them to write a letter to nokia to that effect.
> The owner of the store does know about networking.  In all my years of
> owning mobile phones I've never encountered such a problem before.  The
> interesting thing is the lan works perfectly with the telexy software I 
> can
> copy remove delete or listen to files  across the lan.
> Bernard Hemmings
> email: [email protected]
> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
> Ftp server email: [email protected]
> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
> Home: 61-02-95841280
> Mobile: 61-0412177799
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Malcolm Parfitt" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifi
> onphonesversesrouters.
>
>
>>I am not advocating using an open network but as a temporary measure as a
>> test.
>>
>> Also, if you use the ip address of a site rather than its url does that
>> work, may be a dns lookup issue?
>>
>> Can you access your router's management page from your phone?
>>
>> Just a couple of suggestions.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
>> Sent: 15 September 2010 12:11
>> To: Talks Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifi on
>> phonesversesrouters.
>>
>> I have tired the automatic ip address option or dhcp and the only
>> difference
>> was the error invalid server name came up in 2 seconds instead of ten
>> seconds.  The phone access point was using wep for as I told the branch
>> manager running an open wireless network is not an option more should it
>> have to be.  I will try the laptop type connection when I get the phone
>> back
>> on the air.  I decided to format the phone because apart from the network
>> problem.  When I opened the talks window often the e72 would beep but no
>> error message was spoken.  I've never heard that before but figured the
>> install must have gone a bit strange.
>>
>> Bernard Hemmings
>> email: [email protected]
>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
>> Ftp server email: [email protected]
>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
>> Home: 61-02-95841280
>> Mobile: 61-0412177799
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Malcolm Parfitt" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] technical differences between wifi on phones
>> versesrouters.
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A couple of suggestions.
>>>
>>> Firstly are you saying that your phone connected to another phone
>>> running as an access point?
>>>
>>> Try temporarily disabling security on your wireless network, can you
>>> connect now?
>>>
>>> I have my wireless channel set to auto and I don't have any problems.
>>>
>>> Try using your phone as a dhcp client, is your phone listed  in the
>>> router's list of devices?
>>>
>>> Can you establish an add hock link between your phone and your laptop?
>>>
>>> What router are you using?  Is there updated firmware for it?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
>>> Sent: 15 September 2010 11:16
>>> To: talks
>>> Subject: [Talks] technical differences between wifi on phones verses
>>> routers.
>>>
>>> Stephen or any other persons with technical knowledge on the list.
>>> When I took my e72 back to nokia today instead of using a normal LAN
>>> they used a phone running either walking hotspot or the other similar
>>> package to show me their is no problem.  the branch manager lames
>>> there is no difference between hotspots.  The problem is it still
>>> won't connect  to web addresses via a LAN but seemed to work perfectly
>>> when a phone is used as a hotspot.  as they used an automatic ip
>>> address I tried that when I got home but still no joy yet my laptop
>>> works perfectly via the same wireless network.  I tried 2 different
>>> wifi networks on the weekend which would not work as well as 2 public
>>> free wifi hotspots at Sydney airport one servicing the domestic
>>> terminal and the second the international terminal.
>>> These did not work either.  I've since removed the sim card and
>>> formatted the phone a few times.  When I heard it work using the phone
>>> hotspot  I was very pleased thinking the problem had gone away but no
>>> so now I am at a loss.  I am going to go to my local pc shop tomorrow
>>> I will ask the guy there to see if he can connect the phone to his
>>> network after he sets the date and time on the phone.  If my laptop
>>> did not work on my wlan then my LAN would be at fault.  The nlkia
>>> branch manager told me to change the channel on the router as it might
>>> help but as the phone and router talk to each other I'm sure that's
>>> not the issue but I did try it with no effect.
>>> the only difference I know of between phone hotspots and routers is
>>> one uses addhock while the other uses public.  perhaps the latest e72
>>> software uses a different default setting in that field and it has to
>>> be changed.  Another thing I plan on doing if I can find someone with
>>> an optus sim who will let me borrow it for a few seconds then
>>> hopefully the protected telstra destinations may be removed.
>>> The branch manager refused to use a router based LAN saying their is
>>> no difference between a phone hotspot and a LAN.
>>>
>>> Bernard Hemmings
>>> email: [email protected]
>>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
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