OK, sounds like there might be something we can work on here then.

Stian - I'll put our guy directly in touch with you so that together you can 
work something out as to how he could contribute.

cheers,
Richard

On 22 Jan 2010, at 13:18, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:

> Scufl2 is meant to describe tavernalike datadriven worldliest, so if the hive 
> workflow structure is significantly similar it might be doable, yes.
> 
> We are planning to make the workbench edit scufl2 models rather than t2core 
> execution objects as of today.
> 
> There are bound to be differences, like how lists are iterated over or how 
> service implementations are defined. Part of our scufl2 plan was to allow 
> several alternative bindings of activities.
> 
> Other differences could be dealt with by some kind of baseline, like a common 
> set of possible workflows, and other more specialised baselines that are not 
> crossengine compatible.
> 
> Buy yeah, sounds exciting!
> 
> We're also thinking along similar lines working with Meandre.
> 
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2010 10:40, "Richard Holland" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As some of you might know, at Eagle we use Ensembl Hive to construct 
>> pipelines that can be deployed on clusters/clouds. It has essentially the 
>> same concepts as Taverna, but configuring it is a nightmare combination of 
>> Perl modules and records in database tables.
>> 
>> We want to be able to describe a workflow/pipeline using a formal language 
>> (preferably within a GUI so we don't have to go using a text editor to do 
>> it) then convert it into Hive config files programmatically. Or, convert it 
>> into Taverna - but using the same workflow description document format 
>> regardless of which system the pipeline is intended for.
>> 
>> >From Stian's email below, I see that the SCUFL format is currently being 
>> >redesigned to produce SCUFL2. Is it intended to represent generic pipelines 
>> >or is it Taverna specific?
>> 
>> If it is supposed to be generic, we'd like to offer to help. We'd do the 
>> SCUFL2-Hive conversion tool ourselves, but we'd work with you on defining 
>> SCUFL2 such that it can satisfactorily represent both Taverna and Hive 
>> workflows. We could also put some time towards developing the 
>> SCUFL2-building GUI, if you have one planned.
>> 
>> We have some free developer time coming up for a few days in Feb and March, 
>> which we could contribute to you (for free) to help develop the SCUFL2 
>> format. A few days (we're talking maybe 2 weeks max) is not much time really 
>> on a project like this but we hope it would help in some way.
>> 
>> What do you all think?
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Richard
>> On 6 Jan 2010, at 10:47, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > Hi! > > We're working 
>> on making the new SCU...
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