On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:43:26 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 19, 2000, 7:16:09 AM, Marek Mikus wrote:

>> But when I create new filtr by "Ctrl+Sft+F" shortcut, TB display whole
>> address for example _"Jakub Herzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>_ with quote
>> marks. If he can't filter that, why he submited me that!!!!

> Hmmm? Strange, because when I try and set-up a Filter for you in that
> manner, the address I'm presented with is:

> Marek Mikus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> and as you can see, there are no quote marks.

TB! takes the name and address from the message headers. Depending on the
mailer, the name will be placed in quotation marks or it may not be.
Outlook Express for one places the sender name in quotations while TB!
does not unless the user explicitly puts the name in quotations.

>  In any case, the above will not Filter any messages. What I _always_
> have to do is remove the name and just leave the address like this:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> without the usual <> encapsulation. I wonder if Stefan is saying, that
> for the Filter to work as TB! constructs it through the Specials
> sub-menu, or through ctrl-shift-F, the name only would have to be
> encapsulated with apostrophes?

> As much as I love TB!, it has to have one of the most limited and
> confusing filtering systems.

Limited? Relative to what? :-) Confusing .... yes. :-)

>  It becomes such a frustrating experience when you are trying to figure
> out if you need quote marks, double quote marks, or apostrophes. When
> you _create_ a filter with TB!, my presumption is that it should simply
> work... Just the way TB! sets it up! :o) It doesn't.... and never has!

The quick filter creation scheme I've always disliked because it's not
particularly efficient especially if you're creating filters for the same
source and destination folder and it disregards the importance of the
order of the filters. It offers two extremes, ie, to place the filter rule
at the bottom of the list or to override all filters which places it at
the top of the list. Sometimes, simplifiers can do more harm than good.

>  In addition, the limitations under "Location" is a real drawback.
> Hopefully they will resolve all that, in 2.0  They should look at
> Eudora's filtering system... one of the most powerful and user friendly
> I've ever seen. Those are the key words... "user friendliness"... THAT
> is what TB! is lacking in it's filtering.

The main problem in this instance is that the filter string plugged in by
TB! really should work. I tried one and it really didn't work. I had to
delete the name and leave the e-mail address in the brackets as the filter
string before it did. A bug if you ask me. TB! should extract only the
senders e-mail address (minus the name) as the filter string which is
almost always correct and will work.

-- 
� 2000 Allie Martin
  Using TB! v1.42 Beta/18 on Win2k Pro
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** If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

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