>>Some of their implementations are superior to anything else out there
> Yes, we've all heard that before. More than once... I am curious. You complain a lot about the Bat. Are you reporting the issues that bother you, getting confirmations and entering them in the bug tracker? -- Rick When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world v5.0.9.6 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 5.0.9.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html