Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 6:01:19 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Zygmunt,
> Cannot find a quick template "TyEn"
>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2007, at 22:11:09 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, August 21,
>> 2007 22:11 my local time) Robert van der Hulst wrote:

>>>> [...] The Bat! knows nothing about the the receiving in that program.
>>>> The Bat! uses current date and set it as 'receive' date.

>>>> When you retrieve (not import) messages from the archive, you retrieve all
>>>> information, including receive date for each message.

>>> That is not completely true. TB could extract the date from the
>>> 'Received' headers in the email. For example your message has the
>>> following Received headers in my message base:

>> Of course, The Bat! could use last Received date form the message header,
>> but as you know, this is the date when the message arrived to the server.
>> When you connect to the server tomorrow, The Bat! will receive the message 
>> and
>> write internally the tomorrow date as 'receiving' date. From this point of 
>> view
>> all is logically correct.

> You would be right if we were talking about receiving mails from a
> server. But in case of importing mails from other clients,
> this approach produces an undesired result.

Exactly

> And another bug is, that before importing user is not warned that he
> will in fact *loose* some information. Just changing an email client
> is not a good reason to loose the information about when I received
> the email. -- Yes, *I* received an email (using my email client). Not
> TheBat received an email, not Thunderbird, etc. *I* received the email
> in a client I was using at that time.

> How's this point of view to you all?

You are 100% right. I'm a little concerned that this particular
handling of imported email is actually in the Bat and remains as-is.
As a software developer, I would think that making sure that someone
moving to my product means that they have a seamless and worry-free
experience. Whats the point of moving to TB if you're going to have a
hard time sorting and filtering your email.

TBH, if it wasn't for the fact that I can use a view (which uses a
filter to set the creation date to a specific period) to properly see
my emails, I'd just merge my new emails (after all its only been less
than a week since I switched) back into TB, then go to using PocoMail
until this is sorted in the Bat. Assuming they ever do it.

At this point, I'm not going to jump to something else because I don't
see any resistance coming from the developers. So hopefully our
comments and suggestions are being considered.

btw, when I was evaluating Pocomail and TB last week before making the
jump, Pocomail imported my mails _exactly_ as they should be without
any modifications. In fact, since I was using Vista, I wanted to see
if Windows Mail had gotten any better. I was able to export/import my
mail just fine. Naturally, using WM is just using Outlook Express. Its
rubbish. I tried Windows Live Mail Desktop (Beta) as well. Same thing.
My emails were just fine.

I have no idea why they have chosen to do it this way and it boggles
the mind.

-- 
cheers,
 Indie_Dev


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