Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Krzysztof wrote something like this: >> And this small steps bring us to point: >> 1. There is no new plugins and old are not developed >> 2. Big discussion lists and forums, sites slowly dying (tb-l, >> bat-mail.de.vu, PSTB, TheBat! World) - no new users, no new >> posts, no new news. > What's the connection between making new releases often and the > above points?
Read fileforum comments. This is only example. >> Tell me why this happen? > I suspect a quite a big number of reasons are involved. Frequency of > releases being a lesser one. I'd roughly say: > - - company's management being inefficient (this includes PR, > community cooperation, project management). > - - quality management being down (lack of proper testing, > leading to a programme being somewhat "uneven" -- some versions > are stabile, while other are beta-quality. > - - unclear rules of setting future goals, unrevealed roadmaps > (which brings me the suspicion of non-existent roadmaps), lack > of official wishlist with some sort of enduser preference > checking. > - - lack of vision But this is RITs side. Normal user do not see this. See product and history. You write about next level. >>>> Yes, I know how to cheat this behavior, but this is not 100% OE >>>> style. >>> I believe you can set everything so that it works exactly as in >>> OE. >> No. When you know how to do that please answer for this posts: > Can you tell exactly which parts of OE style can't be set up in TB > using currently existing features? I find it unclear, since... >> http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1246 >> http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=934 >> http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=169 >> http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1053 >> http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=377 >> http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=35 > ...none of these posts contains a detailed question that could lead > to a conclusion that it not true that "you can set everything so > that it works exactly as in OE". Hence I re-state my assertion: > I believe you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. hmmm Belive or not but not everything. Once again - see above links. > You do this using filters, common folders, color groups. This is too > complicated, I agree. But it is possible, hence the "engine" > contains all the required functions. The only problem is on the UI > side -- there should exist an automated way to use the currently > existing functions in order to allow inexperienced users benefit > from those functions. This may of course come beyond the task "UI > rework" as defined by RITLabs for v4, but we don't know that. > Another thing I notice after reading the articles you liked above is > that people on that forum seem to be quite unhelpful. When you activate account, you must accept rules. One of rule is that you not ask about something that is in manual or you can find in forum archive, tb-l archive and PSTB FAQ - use search option. > Each topic starts with a question if it was possible to set TB up in > an OE-manner. The answers are short and there are just two of them. > Either "no", So please support RITs and PSTB forum and only one time answer (you read, you know answer? you not answer - you are quite unhelpful?). Topics are above. There is no possibility to have 5 different Accounts and one folder tree like in OE. You can only cheat but you newer hide 5 accounts. And this answer is in PSTB FAQ, you can find in forum and in tb-l. > Perhaps it would be better to instead just explain exactly how to > set things up. Once again: there is no such possibility. Over. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski ________________________________________________________ Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html