Hello Kertész, On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:13:07 +0100 GMT (23/11/2008, 00:13 +0700 GMT), Kertész Vilmos wrote:
>>>> I don't want any red windows. I'm not user v1.0, the log is enough. DE>>> Sorry you are wrong here. >> Interesting. I checked again and I still don't want any red windows. KV> Unfortunately, it is not about you. No, it's about Gmail's non-standard behaviour. This is a non-issue for most people. DE>>> The log is not enough. To see stuff in it you need to go an look. >> Yes, but I don't need to see this regularly. If I have a suspicion >> something is wrong, I will take a look at the log. That's what it's >> for. KV> I am sure, that your majesty reads all programs' manual, all fineprint KV> of the credit cards and medicines. No need to be sarcastic. It won't help the discussion and development of ideas. KV> The same applies here. You can be suspicious. I dont want to be. I and KV> the other 99.9% of the users of TB want to be notified about problems. KV> (I know, believe me, shit falls down to me and I believe, to Marek, KV> too, if TB has a glitch. Glitch: for example unfixed bugs in the last KV> version of TB, that had C/S support.) And want to know how to deal KV> with it. We are not talking about a glitch or bug in TB!. TB! is WAD. The discussion is about whether the design needs to be changed in order to cater to one non-standard email provider. I say no, you say yes. Fine. >>>> Please don't let TB! go the way for the stupidest user imaginable. KV> Unfortunately, TB is a commercial product. It HAS TO BE PREPARED for KV> everybody, including the "stupidest" user. Dont forget: you can be a KV> stupidest user of ... e.g. a car, a chemical, a prescription drug, KV> etc. Not everybody lives in a country where "this product may be hot" has to be printed on a hot coffee cup in big red letters. DE>>> What if you have gone away from your computer for a cup of coffee. DE>>> A message of two could not be saved because of space. Then because DE>>> of a process that you are running e.g. a clean up, space becomes DE>>> available it can then download the next set of messages. >> Then the message will be downloaded whne the space is available. It is KV> Aha. Say an important message cannot be downloaded because of this. KV> And you agree with this. Interesting business attitude... If there is no space in your harddisk, you will have other problems. And, if it happens so regularly that you need your email client to tell you, you should review your policies with regards to disk space usage. KV> Dont forget: TB is used by corporate users. TB is a business tool for KV> them. Not glitches allowed. Or if recognized, must be fixed. Correct, but there is no glitch here. >> only on Gmail that this doesn't work, so don't use Gmail.Don't give me >> red windows for all my accounts just because of Gmail's non-standard >> behaviour. KV> We moved over GMail a long time ago. This conversation is about failed KV> import of messages FOR ANY REASON. The reason is Gmail... If a message is not imported, why does Gmail prevent a second download attempt? I suggest to change email provider, as TB! already re-downloads by default. Only Gmail doesn't let it. DE>>> In this case the warning would have gone past in the status bar, DE>>> you would not have noticed. >> I don't want to, because TB! attempts to downlaod the message again >> until it has been successfully imported into the message base. KV> Nonsense... Really? You seem to know about the inner workings of TB! than Stefan, who said the same - and it is my experience also. Yes, I've been in the situation that one or more mails couldn't be imported, no problem: TB! downloaded them again next time. Of course, I don't use Gmail. DE>>> And you call this a 'stupid' user. DE>>> I would like a warning box with some detail, if necessary it can DE>>> be switched off for the 'intelligent' users. >> Turn it off by default. KV> No. Hardwire it in. Just in case somebody uses Gmail... Nice suggestion. -- Cheers, Thomas. Durchgang bei geoeffnetem Tor verboten. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
