Hello Steve Lamb,

On  Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 07:10:10 [GMT -0800] your local time which was
Wednesday,  January  19,  2000 22:10:10 [GMT +0700] my local time, you
told to the list:

SL> Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 9:15:28 PM, Syafril wrote:
>> It is take 2 step :-(.

SL> Uhm,  no,  it  doesn't. I bounced this message to myself. X-Sender
SL> was set to me. One step.

I just test again with TB! 1.39 :
Redirect  to  myself  or  any  [EMAIL PROTECTED], no problem and TB!
adding X-Sender : [EMAIL PROTECTED] as you mentioned.
But  redirect  to  external (internet) user, bounce by my Mail Server,
the snippet log as below :

Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:21: [336:2] EHLO SYAFRIL
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:21: [336:2] 250-dutaint.co.id Hello SYAFRIL, ESMTP hello!
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:21: [336:2] 250-VRFY
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:21: [336:2] 250-EXPN
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:21: [336:2] 250-ETRN
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:21: [336:2] 250 SIZE
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:22: [336:2] MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:22: [336:2] 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sender accepted
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:22: [336:2] RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:22: [336:2] Can't accept or relay message.
Thu 2000-01-20 08:48:22: [336:2] Sender not from trusted domain or IP and recipient 
not a valid

And  TB!  error  message  says  :  Message  has  not been sent. Server
reply-<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Recipient unknown.

And this is snippet Server logs if I redirect using Eudora :

Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] HELO syafril
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] 250 dutaint.co.id Hello syafril, pleased to meet you
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] RSET
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] 250 RSET?  Well, OK.
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sender accepted
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Recipient ok
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] DATA
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] Storing <d:\mdaemon\smtpin\md50000196832.tmp>
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] 354 Enter mail, end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] 250 Ok, message saved
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] QUIT
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] 221 See ya in cyberspace
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] SMTP session successful, 1259 bytes transferred.
Thu 2000-01-20 08:58:52: [324:1] Shuffling message(s) into proper queue(s)

Message   header   (from   TB!)   redirect  message  to  my  self  (or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) :

Using The Bat! (bounce by my Serve):

Received: from SYAFRIL by dutaint.co.id with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.0.0k.R) for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:11:40 +0700
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:11:26 +0700
From: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.39)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redirect (Bounce)
X-Sender: Support Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Eudora header (pass by my Server)

Received: from syafril by dutaint.co.id with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.0.0k.R) for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:58:52 +0700
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:58:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (by way of Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Subject: Re: Redirect (Bounce)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It  seems Eudora also change the Reply-To: and X-Return-Path: address,
that's why my server pass through.

If recipient reply this redirect message :
- use The Bat : reply back to Redirector.
- use M$ mail Family : reply to Author (From: Address).

Which one better ?
Any thought ?

-- 
- syafril -

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I am using The Bat! 1.39 (reg) under
Windows NT Workstation 4.0 built 1381, Service Pack 6

Created : Thursday, January 20, 2000, 8:52:08 (GMT + 07:00)

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