Hello Aam, Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 12:29:40 PM, you wrote:
>> The POP3 protocol does not know "already downloaded" aas> It sure seems to know it when it comes to the interaction between the aas> POP3 Bat and Gmail. :-o The trick that TheBat! which messages it (on one computer) has already downloaded is that it keeps a log of the message-IDs. It's in the file Mail / Accountname / Account.M-R (with M_R probably standing for Messages_Received). It's a plain-text file. This is also why, at least over here, any messages already downloaded on one computer are still considered new and unread on another. aas> Like Stuart suggested, maybe there is some peculiarity causing aas> this. For many years now, I have been leaving all messages on the aas> server, so it's not because any message is deleted on the server aas> before the second Bat gets a chance to download it. Nope, the aas> message is there, Can you verify this with the message despatcher? 1.) Account / Message Despatcher / New Messages only 2.) Account / Message Despatcher / All messages aas> but the second POP3 Bat somehow detects it had already been aas> downloaded by the first POP3 Bat, and skips it. This is very peculiar indeed, as the POP protocol does not know flags like "read". The IMAP protocol does. aas> It worked both ways for me when I tested it: no matter if the aas> desktop PC or the notebook PC happened to be the "first" or the aas> "second" POP3 Bat to download a message (while both Bats were set aas> to leave messages on the server). I hear you. It doesn't seem to make sense though, and I am thinking of why this is happening to you. Over here (and I read messages on three machines by POP: Office PC, home PC, laptop), all behaves as you desire. aas> As to the interaction between the POP3 Bat and IMAP smartphones, aas> there is no problem. (Apart from the inconvenience of messages aas> already-read on the smartphone appearing as unread when aas> downloaded by the POP3 Bat, the lost mark-up of messages flagged aas> on the smartphone, etc.) The smartphone uses IMAP. It flags the messages as read, so if you view them again with any other IMAP client, they are marked as read. TheBat, which uses POP in your set-up, does not know this, as the POP protocol does not use flags... I might have mentioned that above. aas> Well, for now I have switched to the IMAP Bat on the notebook, aas> while keeping the POP3 Bat on my main computer, and the weeks and aas> months to come will -- if nothing else -- give me the opportunity aas> to observe and compare how The Bat behaves in both environments. There is one more thing: In order to verify whether a message has been downloaded already, TheBat (like any other POP client) needs to download the message ID. If there are, say, more than 2,000 messages on the server, it slows any POP client down considerably. You say that you leave all messages on the server - please do check for "all messages" with the mail despatcher, as suggested above. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ________________________________________________ Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
